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i think that i will wait your settings without change settings in mpc.
But it won't make a difference specifically for anime because you have your display running at 72Hz already; 99.99% of anime is at 24fps, and the MPC-HC settings I posted has 72Hz being used for 24fps videos.
Ok...but why do i need to do this?
You don't have to do it, that's why I said "if you get bored again".
The idea was that, in your boredom, you could use my settings as a starting point and then from there fiddle around with the settings and see what the difference is for yourself.
GPU is "maxed" at 83-87% because I'm using madVR
This would be the perfect situation to have SVP use your integrated GPU while having madVR use your discrete GPU.
HOWEVER, if I use the LAV video decoder instead of the ffdshow video decoder SVP will not detect the video.
You do have the ffdshow raw video decoder set to "Prefer" in the external filters, right?
You don't need to use a screen recorder, but you still need to use 3rd-party software that hooks into SVP. Unfortunately, none of them are that user-friendly, and the one that seemed the easiest to use was designed around SVP 3 so I have no idea if it works with SVP 4.
Honestly you could probably just copy the settings I use on my laptop; the only main difference is that I use 75Hz as my screen's default rather than 72Hz.
It might be until tomorrow until I'm able to get to these anime settings, or at least Monday at the very latest (depends how tired I'll be as a result from today - it's still too early to tell).
Yes i was bored so i tried to modify the refresh rate of my monitor,and i did it! (however it was very easy lol)
Well if you get bored again, try setting up MPC-HC's automatic refresh rate changer. 
MPV is not what I dream of.
Same here, until there's some way to automatically change my monitor's refresh rate without needing to use configuration scripts that work in an almost command-line fashion (abstract things like coding and command line is my biggest weakspot).
No problem here...
I will provide settings, don't worry. It's just that I have a guest visiting this evening so I've been preparing and stuff - afterwards things should simmer down and I should have enough free time.
Also, I'm surprised that you actually went and did the 72Hz thing - did you get bored of waiting or something?
I'm planning to revert back to SVP 3 so I could have more freedom in the settings.
Just an FYI, most of those custom settings still exist in SVP 4, it's just that they're now in the Pro version.
Hi,i'm using these settings:
I really must recommend against these settings since they were chosen with considerable hardware constraints; by comparison a 6600k is more than enough that you could probably max out all of SVP's settings and still have CPU headroom.
One thing that must be mentioned though is that, if you're going to use SVP 3, make sure you manually change the amount of processing threads to at least 7. If you don't do this, then you may have inadequate performance even if your CPU has lots of headroom.
If you use MadVR, I would recommend setting SVP to use your integrated Intel GPU and letting MadVR have your discrete GPU all to itself.
Lastly, one key thing that can reduce artifacting and increase smoothness is to have your screen refresh rate be an exact multiple of the source framerate (60Hz for 60fps, 50Hz for 25fps, 48Hz for 24fps, etc). This can be achieved via MadVR's or MPC-HC's automatic resolution changer though you may need to make custom resolution(s) in order to even access such refresh rates (I personally use CRU - Custom Resolution Utility).
If you instead decide to increase your refresh rate (like running a 60Hz monitor at 72Hz), then you would go through the same process but afterwards you need to make sure your monitor is actually displaying 72fps and not skipping frames - the quick-and-dirty method is to just drag a program window around relatively quickly and see if it's smoother than 60Hz (if it's smoother, then you should be good); the OCD way is to run the BlurBusters frame-skipping test and take a photo of the screen (slow cell phone cameras are actually better at this).
When making custom resolution, please be aware of the ability to reset to "640x480" or "low resolution VGA mode" (you can ignore step 4 and everything after) in case something goes wrong.
i think that we can obtain a very good result even with 60hz monitor, as we did with the tv series.
"Very good" is extremely subjective - consider that I've been watching 24fps videos at 96Hz (as well as 30fps @ 90Hz, 25fps @ 100Hz, and 60fps @ 120Hz) with black frame insertion for almost 2 years now. By comparison my HTPC can only run at 60Hz (GPU doesn't support custom resolutions) and the experience is noticeably less smooth, but I'm not the HTPC's primary user anyway.
Look, I'm just a perfectionist that likes to squeeze every little bit of extra smoothness out of a system; it's not like I'm going to flat-out refuse to provide settings for anime at 60Hz or anything (the only reason I haven't provided any settings yet is because I've been occupied).
I think that it is much easier for me and for you if you help me with
The settings at 60hz refresh rate. Dont you think?
In this case, easier is not better though. I care more about ending with the best result we can reasonably get rather than doing what is easy and forever living with a sub-par result.
Regardless, I was still going to do the anime at 60Hz stuff - I can't change your mind for you.
The anime that i watch are in 8 bit..
Well that makes things much easier then.
For the refresh rate i don't want to do this beacause i don't want to modify anithing of my pc as i'am a noob
Technically there are ways for me to do it for you, but I don't think you'd be too keen on having a stranger be able to move your mouse cursor and type things.
also i think that there is no much difference between 60fps and 90 fps.
Really? That's interesting...
Though personally don't recommend 90Hz since support for that on 60Hz displays is much more hit-and-miss, by comparison something like 72Hz almost always works.
I think that i don't want to modify my screen refresh rate for several reason.
I won't press the issue, but am I allowed to at least know why?
Instead,can you help me to figure out an optimal setup for anime? As have you done with tv series?
Sure thing. It might be a bit difficult to determine optimal settings for 10 bit encodes though because higher bitrate will result in higher CPU utilization, and I can't really predict all that well what bitrate will be used.
Oh, and just an FYI, SVP 4 Pro is able to have separate profiles for 8 bit, 10 bit, and even based on the file path (like if the video folder contained the word "anime" in it).
Sorry i don't undstand what i have to do exactly?
Well, it's the same process as making a custom resolution for 48Hz, but instead of 48 you type in 72.
Also, instead of selecting "LCD Native", you select "LCD Reduced".
But will my cpu handle it?
The difference is only maybe 2-3% more, but honestly you could probably drop "reduce grid step" to "local refinement" without much of a visual effect and that would also save you 2-3%.
...this is assuming your display doesn't do frame-skipping when ran at 72Hz, but most 1366x768 displays will be just fine (my own 1366x768 laptop display can do 72Hz no problem).
The quick-and-dirty way to find out if it's doing frame skipping is to just drag a program window around relatively quickly and see if it's smoother than 60Hz; if it's smoother, then you should be good. The OCD way is to run the BlurBusters frame-skipping test and take a photo of the screen (slow cell phone cameras are actually better at this).
What are the advantages of using 72hz monitor?
I don't mean a separate monitor that can run at 72Hz, rather I mean running the display you currently have (presumably a laptop?) at 72Hz.
Regarding the advantages, uh...you mean you don't know the advantages? I thought it'd be obvious - I mean, running a video game at something like 90fps is clearly better than running it at 60fps.
Crazy question that I was curious about...
You've made it very clear that you want nothing to do with running your display at 48 Hz.
...but what are your thoughts on running your display at 72 Hz?
With these adjustments the cpu is 80% 85% and the index is 1.00 so the playback is fine.
Alright, you should be good to go then, though you're still welcome to tweak them yourself some.
Since I've got a good idea on your CPU performance now, I may try looking into some specific settings for anime, both for 8bit AVC and 10bit AVC - though definitely not tonight, I need to get to bed.
With these settings the cpu utlization is 95% and the index is 0.95. So the playback is tooo slow T.T
You have D3D Fullscreen enabled in MPC-HC, right?
If that still isn't enough, set artifact masking to "disabled" - that should gain you about 5% CPU utilization.
You might be able to also gain maybe 2-3% by setting "Processing of scene changes" to "Repeat frame".
Also you could try setting "Search radius" to 'Average' which may gain you another 2-3% of CPU utilization.
Ok, now if my math is correct, these settings should be usable.
Since you seemed to be pretty OCD about artifacts, I prioritized having "Global Refinement" and also threw in some weak artifact masking as well.
Again, same thing, if it's still too much then tell me your SVP index and maybe your CPU utilization.
Obviusly the playback is horrible with these settings. The index is 0.68 0.70
OK I figured - turns out that "Fast SVPmark" is horribly inaccurate since I was only getting a value of around 650!
...though that makes me think, you do have GPU acceleration enabled in SVP, correct?
Hmmm this is odd, I'm having some conflicting results with regards to simulating your CPU performance...
Well, let's give it some real-world testing then! Try these settings - don't be surprised if they're too much for your system though.
If it is too much for your PC, please look at the performance graph in SVP (right-click SVP icon, Information -> Performance graphs) and tell me what the "SVP index" is.
The video are in 8bit and h264. The score is 753
Great! In that case I will not need the video bitrate.
Sorry 775*
It's not 100% exact, so it can vary by it bit. Don't worry about it.
Now, on to testing!
Oh, uh, I just realized that you only said that the TV series is 1080p - you didn't say the codec nor the bit depth. Bit rate could also be useful, but isn't required.
This is kind of important because 10bit HEVC will take more CPU utilization than 10bit AVC and much more than 8bit AVC.
Also, could you very quickly tell me what your "Fast SVPmark" score is? You can find out by right-clicking the SVP tray icon in the bottom-right of your screen, going to "video profiles", and then "Reset to defaults" (don't worry, it won't actually reset if you click the upper-right X or "Cancel"); your "Fast SVPmark" score should be a number just to the left of the "OK" button.
I can't really give particularly accurate results until I have the codec & bit depth info, but I could live without the "Fast SVPmark" since that's just to make my life easier by quickly confirming if my CPU setup is correct or not.
EDIT: If you need a reminder on how to check the video info for codec, bit depth, and bit rate, open a video in MPC-HC and then go to File -> Properties, "MediaInfo" tab, and look look under "Video"
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