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Dropped frames with MPC+Madvr (if smooth motion is enabled) destroys smoothness. Can you guys test MPDN with the frame dropping and tell me if you see it not being smooth, before claiming that it isn't.

I'm not talking out of my backside. Try it before you act all technical, I don't know why it says it's dropping frames when it runs extremely smooth and even smoother than MPC (well I know why I already explained it earlier)...

PS: I know what usually happens when frame drops occur with other media players, that lag or stuttering doesn't occur whatsoever with MPDN and render times remain very low too. BTW frame drops only occur with SVP with MPDN. As for the artifacts decreasing after overclocking: well they do decrease, in the same scenes I can see them decreasing (before and after overclock).

It's not that hard to download the player and run it, it doesn't even install, you just have to run it and add ffdshow and you're done. Try it and see what I mean.

No, MPDN dropping frames doesn't effect the smoothness whatsoever (in fact, that's my point, if there's no delayed frames, it's actually slightly smoother than MPC & PotPlayer; I already explained why MPDN drops frames on the first page; or why I believe it drops frames with SVP). The best way to test smoothness is with movies like the Hobbit which are originally shot at 48FPS, but I have them at 24fps. The difference is very noticeable. Both MPC and MPDN are arguably equally as smooth with the same settings on SVP (give or take a little, that MPDN might be slightly smoother), but the difference is the amount of artifacts and their size (both of which are lower and/or smaller on MPDN).

If the video is already 60FPS and you're not using SVP to create extra-frames, any player should be able to run it, even on low-end hardware. What's the point? You're not really creating any extra frames if you're running a 60fps video @60fps using SVP (makes the whole point of the program redundant).

That's why the best way to test SVP is on high res/bitrate (what dlr5668 said) and with videos that have a lower FPS than your monitor (aka 24fps, 25fps, and 30fps content; I don't even use SVP for 60FPS content). I also upscale to 1440p, without upscaling on a 1080p monitor/tv/projector watching 1080p content, I can probably push for better settings. But I'm waiting for OLED TV Prices to go down to buy a TV for my room, probably towards the end of the year. I regret not getting a Panasonic Plasma before they stopped making them.

Considering I've studied psychology for 2 years and left it to study politics. Yes, I'm very well aware of the placebo effect. If I had a DSLR Camera capable of shooting at high frame rates I'd have recorded a video to show exactly what I mean.

It's not placebo, the evidence is there right in front of me. Unless I'm suffering from some weird mental illness known as SVP Syndrome, I haven't taken that into account, but I doubt I am haha.

Why it isn't running on your Radeon HD7670M could be due to driver issues? I'm not sure to be honest as to why it isn't working. I see you've asked on the Doom9 Forums, I think Zachs is on holiday, so he might not get back to you as quickly as you'd hope, but if someone else has had a similar issue they'll get back to you.

As to why we are running at 4x the source; I partly explain it in the article. But it has been well documented and argued (while some don't believe it), running 4x the source actually makes the video "appear" a lot smoother (if your hardware is capable of running it), even if it's over your refresh rate. Running at 6x via forcing refresh rate, I tested it and it does appear to be even smoother than 4x, but for the benefit of everyone, as well as less explaining for me to do on the article, we'll be using 4x frame-rate.

Regarding render script, try reading through the MPDN thread, so you get an idea of how to use it. You can configure different render scripts and use commands, such as Alt+Numpad1 to activate one render script and Alt+Numpad2 to activate another (I haven't done this myself, but I believe the feature is there).

I haven't tried "The Theory of Everything", but for me the differences are visible and clear in many videos. Again I don't expect everyone to achieve the same results, and I cannot answer all the questions regarding MPDN, so I'll see if Zachs can comment here regarding MPDN Issues (I have to ask him), BUT have you selected DirectX 11 Presentation API? Because that's what decreases the amount of artifacts for me (using the exact same SVP  settings).

You have to fiddle around with the settings and the render-scripts, I haven't written a guide for that yet, UNI started for me, so I'll be busy and probably need some time to write a MPDN Guide (no promises if I will, but I plan to in the future).

Stick to whichever player you find best, I used MPC+Madvr for a long time (as well as many other players along the way with many different settings over the last few years), but for the last few months I've been using MPDN, and I have seen it improve week after week.

The frame dropping issue is normal, if you watch the video you'll know it's running smooth. I run a 24fps video at 4x source, thus it's running at 96fps on a 60Hz monitor which can only do a max of 60fps, the remainder of the frames are literally "dropped" by the media player. The reason why MPC doesn't drop them is because Madvr Smooth Motion feature remains enabled even if the frame-rate is higher than the monitor refresh rate, with MPDN smooth motion or fluid motion rather, is disabled once you're running SVP at faster frame rate than the monitor refresh rate. What you need to look at is delayed frames! If you're getting any delayed frames it means it's lagging and you need to tone down the settings for SVP or the Media Player.

Graphic Adapter ID as 0 is normal, that's what mine is... Also you can't expect to run my SVP settings on a 3570K, unless it's clocked ridiculously high. SVP is mostly a CPU intensive program, your GTX 970 will handle the render scripts. Read my article, I state that unless you're running the same hardware as I am or your hardware is better than mine, I cannot guarantee that my settings will work.

In fact here's the best way to test it. You use MPC? or PotPlayer? First use my SVP Settings with whichever one you're using, make sure everything is running stable, tweak it (every person's SVP should be different, depending on their hardware, mine is just a general guide as to how I achieved maximum smoothness), then after you've assured SVP is running smoothly, then and only then start tweaking around with MPDN. That way at least you know 100% that whatever issues are arising are related to MPDN.

I honestly have no idea... You'd have to ask on the MPDN Thread.

Just remember,

1. Download and extract "Media Player .NET (MPDN) - x86 Edition" into an EMPTY folder.

2. Download and extract "Latest MPDN Player Extensions, Render Scripts and Custom Linear Scalers Pack", into ANOTHER empty folder.

3. Open the folder from STEP 2, you should see another folder titled "MPDN_Extensions_Master", open that and COPY everything inside of it to the MPDN folder from STEP 1 and overwrite all the files.

Every time a new version comes out you have to do this, you can for example go into the folder from step 2 and extract that specific folder directly to the MPDN directory; which is what I do using WinRAR.

Yes to MPDN 32-Bit since SVP doesn't work with 64-Bit.

Yes to LAV Filters

Yes to FFDShow

No to Madvr, I already have it installed on my PC and always have had it installed and updated. But I don't believe it's a requirement for MPDN as stated in the OP for the program on doom9 forums (it comes with its own settings for upscaling and downscaling that are similar to Madvr, have a look at the options for MPDN).

To get SVP to work you must go to View --> Options --> Video (under DirectShow) and add ffdshow raw video filter to the selected filters (that's all you NEED to do). And select DX11 As the presentation API obviously. Have a look at all the settings.

EDIT: I'm not the developer of MPDN, Zachs is the developer, so any questions regarding MPDN are best answered by him.

As for the options in MPDN, you should be familiar with them if you've used Madvr. Have a look through the options, from dithering to Luma & Chroma up-scaling and down-sampling. The Render Script is by far the best feature, that needs to be downloaded alongside the extensions and added to the MPDN Directory. It's all in the OP.