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(12 replies, posted in Using SVP)

MAG79 wrote:

AndreaMG
SVP uses first ffdShow filter in the chain. You can disable ffdShow decoder by turn off raw format at Codecs tab.

Hi Mag,
it works but FFdshow for some reason doesn't keep memory of the modification and next time you open MPCHC it gives two istances of FFdshow (Video decoder+raw) again sad

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MAG79 wrote:

AndreaMG
SVP uses first ffdShow filter in the chain. You can disable ffdShow decoder by turn off raw format at Codecs tab.

Thanks MAG! I didn't know that big_smile Thanks again for the new SVP release smile

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(12 replies, posted in Using SVP)

Hi guys,

with the newest version SVP connects to the avisynth in FFdshow Video decoder and not to FFdshow Raw Video filter, is it wanted? If yes why? The only workaround I found (I already use Lav Video decoder and I do not want FFdshow Video decoder in the chain) is to call FFdshow Raw Video filter in MPCHC external filters and set "block" to FFdshow video filter. Any ideas? Thanks smile

zakrawacz wrote:

To be exact - my goal wasn`t to go over 60 Hz - imossible for me anyway.
My goal was to achieve max possible framerate.
"up to 60 fps" is not good anymore - svp can do even better  smile.

i`ll look at this thread from time to time to help resolve some questions

Sorry pal, I'm not following you hmm if SVP is already creating 60 fps from a 24p movie and the newly born big_smile 60fps movie is perfectly displayed at a 60hz refresh rate what do you mean by max framerate possible?? hmm For a 60Hz TV a 60fps movie is already at its max, if you play a 120 fps movie on a 60hz display you will see no difference (maybe some tearing)? big_smile

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(17 replies, posted in Using SVP)

Rimsky
AndreaMG

Locked checkbox has information sense

Ok, ok I got it has information meaning only big_smile , but please do understand that the checkbox could be misleading big_smile  Please do also understand that for us "advanced" users is annoying when a program installs something you do not want to, in this case I find haali annoying because it also tries to reassociate files if I recall correctly... If you say that I can keep my versions of player, render, decoders, splitter already updated and install only SVP lite for me is fine smile Thank you for the great work big_smile

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Rimsky wrote:

AndreaMG
By the way: haali checkbox combined with MPC-HC checkbox
Dont check MPC-HC and haali checkbox stay switchable
We a re talking about full SVP distributive, but our team make it for "beginners"
If you want use you own player, you settings of components - use SVP lite distributive

Thanks, I will follow that road  smile

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Rimsky wrote:

If you never played linking files it does't means that nobody played it.
Anime is offten ditributed in this way, opening and ending cut off separate files for traffic and HDD space economy.

I did not say to drop the intallation of haali by default wink It is correct to let haali installing by default but INMHO it is absurd not to permit the faculty not to install it when there is a checkbox right there smile . I just wanted to clarify my words wink

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Rimsky wrote:

AndreaMG

If you never played linking files it does't means that nobody played it.
Anime is offten ditributed in this way, opening and ending cut off separate files for traffic and HDD space economy.

You understand what "filters", "splitters", "decoders" & etc terrible words means, and its good!
And dont forget - most of people does't understand this, from all installer they understand only "Next" button, so our team has thinking and I decide to check system for splitters and install working combined of haali + lav for supporting so much type of video as possible.

It makes sense, but as you said most people click next button without worring about anything else, so they sure won't untick the splitter option, so why block the possibility to untick it? It still makes no mouch sense to me wink At this point it would be preferable to hide it alltogether from the installation window, but I think we have different ideas smile Please understand that I do not want to criticize your work in any way, I just wanted to express an opinion smile

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Rimsky wrote:

AndreaMG
I want to test it but the installer is forcing me to install haali which I don't want (I prefer LAV splitter), any idea why I cannot deslect it in the installation phase??

Today only haali splitter can open linking mkv-files
LAV splitter cant do this
So installer block haali-combobox
Just for great justice  big_smile

Thanks, but I still don't get it smile why for starters put haali with a checkbox if it is not possible to uncheck it?? hmm Never played those kind of files so am I forced to install it and then uninstall it? Shouldn't be better to let us to decide what to install? smile

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(17 replies, posted in Using SVP)

Thank u guys for the new release. I want to test it but the installer is forcing me to install haali which I don't want (I prefer LAV splitter), any idea why I cannot deslect it in the installation phase?? smile

MAG79 wrote:

zakrawacz
FPSD3DCycleCount to 100
It is not mean 100 Hz.
And you never can get 100 Hz from 60 Hz monitors. wink

I think it is Xmas joke big_smile

big_smile Apart from that, many plasma TVs (like mine: PANASONIC VT30) are able to reproduce 24p content by multiplying by 4 the frame rate (96hz), so I think my TV is in theory capable of doing better than 60hz, don't you think guys? I tried with NVIDIA custom resolutions but sadly any refresh rate above 60 is not supported sad Moreover being 3D capable when playing 3D stuff it goes to 120hz, but I think this refresh rate is only for 3D sad

zakrawacz wrote:

Hi, all - I`ve played a bit with this SVP and I see you don`t use the most powerfull smoothness tool.
You simply need a 100 Hz screen and target frame rate set to x4.


You don`t have a 100 Hz screen? - worry not - here`s what you need to do:
1. go to information=>hidden settings,
2. set ExFixMonFPS and FPSD3DCycleCount to 100
3. celebrate of how genious I am smile

Please elaborate a little more...  big_smile

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Chainik wrote:

but I've no idea if madshi has any thoughts about it

It would be great if your team and Madshi could work together smile Why don't you contact him and see if he is interested? big_smile

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@THX-UltraII, thanks for clarifing it, I'm still wandering why Madshi should enable 3D support if there is no non commercial player out there able to actually reproduce it hmm

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THX-UltraII
First non commercial players that are compatible with madVR has to support 3D br playback like mpc-hc but this will likely not happen for a few years from now.

I play blu-rays with anydvdhd+mpchc+lav+madvr with no proplems, if in the near future Madvr will support 3D with the industry standards I see no problems or I am missing something? smile

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THX-UltraII
Never possible. madVR is a renderer.

Are U sure??
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1594931 post#14523 and followings where he talks about it smile

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AndreaMG
Soon Madshi will implement 3D into MadVR big_smile
And maybe in the future even frame interpolation

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THX-UltraII
3D Blu-Ray on a htpc is ONLY supported by PowerDVD, Total Media Theater and WinDVD. You cannot play 3D Blu-Ray with other software, also not with StereoScopic or 3D Vision Video Player.

Soon Madshi will implement 3D into MadVR big_smile

Look here wink

http://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=837

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MAG79
While playing 1080i50/60, if in Lav Video Settings is checked "video mode" you have a 1080p50/60 deinterlaced picture, SVP shows 1:1 convertion and does nothing even if option "processing of scene changes" is set to blend adjacent frames right?
There are no relations between option "processing of scene changes" and 1080i50/60 format. Do you understand what you wrote?

I thought that if SVP in "processing of scene changes" is set to "blend frames" instead of "repeat frames" it could do its magic without adding new frames by simply modifing the existing ones smile

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MAG79
Maximum Smothness
OK. What you mean under these two words?

    4. smoothness (noun)
    the quality of having a level and even surface
    "the water was a glassy smoothness"; "the weather system of the Pacific is determined by the uninterrupted smoothness of the ocean"
    5. smoothness (noun)
    the quality of being free from errors or interruptions
    "the five-speed manual gearbox is smoothness personified"

Thanks Mag, I'll look in the russian forum with google traslator smile
For smoothness I mean the opposit of jerky, I want to obtain via SVP something that resembles an actual 60fps footage, that's my goal, even at the expense of artifacts (blocks, or waves when I use complicated) big_smile

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From wikipedia:

"1080i differs from 1080p, where the p stands for progressive scan, where all lines in a frame are captured at the same time. In native or pure 1080i, the two fields of a frame correspond to different instants (points in time), so motion portrayal is good (50 or 60 motion phases/second). This is true for interlaced video in general and can be easily observed in still images taken from fast motion scenes. However when 1080p material is captured at 25 or 30 frames/second it is converted to 1080i at 50 or 60 fields/second, respectively, for processing or broadcasting. In this situation both fields in a frame do correspond to the same instant..."

In this second case to obtain smothness you have to deintelace in "film mode" and then intepolate the resulting 25p/30p video with SVP (Doctor Who BD 1080i50 for instance) smile

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Hi guys,

While playing 23.976 movies I just want to know which options to select to achieve maximum smothness even if this means dealing with artifacts. My TV supports maximum 60Hz so I will interpolate 23 to 60, that's for sure big_smile (just out of curiosity I read somewhere that human eye cannot tell the difference of videos above 60fps, but I guess some of you interpolate to 100 or 120Hz screens, do you see any difference by doing that?)

Here Below the settings:

Interpolation mode
Uniform

SVP Shader
which one gives the max smothness?

Motion Vectors grid
which one gives the max smothness?

Search radius
which one gives the max smothness?

Motion vector precision
which one gives the max smothness?

Wide search
which one gives the max smothness?

Processing of scene changes
which one gives the max smothness?

In order to obtain max smothness having to deal with the system power is preferable to use small motion vector grid values and set the motion vector precision at one pixel or is it better to use higher motion vector grid values and leave the motion vector precision at half pixel?

While playing 1080i50/60, if in Lav Video Settings is checked "video mode" you have a 1080p50/60 deinterlaced picture, SVP shows 1:1 convertion and does nothing even if option "processing of scene changes" is set to blend adjacent frames right?

In you opinion for 1080i50/60 videos is it right to deinterlace them in "video mode" wihout SVP? From what I know in a 1080i video each frame has half the inormations but each frame is also a different moment in time, so even if frames are in reality 1080 lines half 2 they indeed are 50 and 60 fps so there is no need for SVP, especially if you have a card that can handle adaptive (vector based) deinterlacing in order to rebuild the missing informations via vectors, just like SVP does, am I right?

Thanks smile

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ed89 wrote:

you have to have patience with me ... I'm no expert. sorry!

As I said earlier being reclock a key component in how SVP works of course you have to say YES wink

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(34 replies, posted in Using SVP)

Mag, I think he wants to see movies with frame interpolation playing them at 59.94fps smile