51 Reply by Xenocyde

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Magly wrote:

It only happens with the TensorRT engine of Rife, the ncnn/Vulcan version works fine but my gpu can't handle it (RTX 3080)

It happens with full movie UHD Bluray mkv rips of several of the Fast & Furious and Transformers movies and some others.

I have an RTX 4080 and full 4K movies cannot run at 48fps+ smoothly, not even on RTX 4090 afaik. If they have HDR data, even worse. I only have a 1080p screen, but I've seen people here recommending to downscale the resolution to 1440p or something similar. Tried your clip and it seems to be running at less than 24 fps (maybe 12 fps) on my RTX 4080 when enabling RIFE (TRT or Vulkan, doesn't matetr). The video gets stretched to twice the normal duration for some reason, and the sound stops in the middle of the video. Not sure what's going on with your optimization window though. Mine ran fine, saved the profile in ~40 seconds.

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52 Reply by Xenocyde

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aloola wrote:

yes, it's the only reason we use v2
from my benchmark, v2 gives a huge fps boost

Why HAGS ON? Shouldn't turning it off provide an even bigger fps boost?

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53 Reply by Xenocyde

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dawkinscm wrote:

Exactly smile Especially since I can see minor but perceptible differences between v4.15 and v4.15v2 that I don't remember seeing in other models.

So V4.15 is better than V4.15V2 now? Didn't you say that V2 is better? I tried both and couldn't see any visual difference.

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54 Reply by Xenocyde

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I've been using V2 or V2 lite models for some time now (maybe 6+ months) and never noticed any shakiness. My vslmrt version is 3.18.16, says it was last modified in December 2023. Does that mean it includes the shake fix?

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55 Reply by Xenocyde

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SHTH34D wrote:

Would it be possible to get an option in SVP to turn HAGS off? It's needed for certain functions (DLSS 3 Frame Generation) and I really don't want to have to turn it off and restart my pc every time I watch a movie.

Don't think you can deactivate it for specific programs in real-time. It's either off or on when the OS boots up.

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56 Reply by Xenocyde

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dawkinscm wrote:

OK found it. In the settings it's under setup and it's called min_duration.

Nice, thank you! Do you guys test with pre-rendered RIFE or real-time RIFE rendering. I know pre-rendered can yield better results, but I only tested this with a 40-minute video in early 2023, can't remember what RIFE version we had back then. Stopped testing stuff like that because pre-rendering took a few hours.

I only test with real-time now and I can see more interference artifacts with 4.15 V2 on the bottom left side of the net. Interestingly enough, the short clip is yielding different results on 4.16 V2 Lite. The long clip shows faint artifacts on the bottom left side of the net, but the short clip shows no artifacts in that area, although I can see faint artifacts on the right side of the net now.

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57 Reply by Xenocyde

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dawkinscm wrote:
Xenocyde wrote:

How do you guys activate Rife in a short clip like that one I linked above? I play the clip but Rife does not activate. I have the long clip of 47 minutes, and I can see more interference artifacts in the goal net on 4.15 V2 towards the left bottom side. Those artifacts are barely visible on 4.16 V2 Lite.

As you have found, only clips above a certain duration will cause SVP to trigger. When I had this issue some time back, I found the setting for the video duration threshold and I think I set it to zero which means SVP will run on any length of video clip. I can't remember if it's code or an actual SVP setting because it's not in the SVP manual.

Welp, if anyone knows how to reduce that threshold to 0, please let me know.

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58 Reply by Xenocyde

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How do you guys activate Rife in a short clip like that one I linked above? I play the clip but Rife does not activate. I have the long clip of 47 minutes, and I can see more interference artifacts in the goal net on 4.15 V2 towards the left bottom side. Those artifacts are barely visible on 4.16 V2 Lite.

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59 Reply by Xenocyde

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dawkinscm wrote:

Thanks but it says I need to request access.

Try this.

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60 Reply by Xenocyde

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dawkinscm wrote:

Fair enough. All the fast motion artefacts I see are improved with v4.15 but left untouched by v4.16. Can you could post a clip? It might be useful to  add it to my test collection.

Here it is.

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61 Reply by Xenocyde

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dawkinscm wrote:

I don't know about Anime but for live action both versions of 4.15 are much better for fast movement artefacts. Also mpv has nothing to do with Rife AI generated artefacts because they are "AI generated" artefacts.

I'm testing with live action, never tested anime. I have a specific scene from a BBC documentary abut the 1990 football cup in Italy where the camera pans from right to left and the football net usually shows interference artifacts. This scene looks a bit better on 4.16 V2 Lite compared to 4.15 V2.

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62 Reply by Xenocyde

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Tried 4.16 V2 Lite with the new MPV update a few days ago and it looks like the fast movement interference artifacts are almost gone now.

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63 Reply by Xenocyde

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Mardon85 wrote:

I can also confrim rife v9.15 v2 is awesome. Testing on Avatar (1) flight scenes and its much improved.

Checked 4.15 V2 for contour and interference pattern artifacts and I can confirm it improves things over 4.14.

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64 Reply by Xenocyde

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Alrighty, guess I'll stick to MPV, but I'll need to figure out downscaling cuz no current GPU can manage 4K@120 from what I read.

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65 Reply by Xenocyde

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Is MPC-HC better for GPUs like RTX 4080? I'm on MPV but screen is 1080p so don't think it really matters right now. I'm thinking of getting a 4K screen soon, though, so maybe MPC-HC is better for 4K?

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66 Reply by Xenocyde

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I'm not seeing any stutters on 4.14. V2 with the latest driver so I'm not downgrading.

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67 Reply by Xenocyde

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cemaydnlar wrote:

I meant v1.14 lite v2 sorry big_smile i am using 3070. That might be the case i appreciate your answer bud thx.

You mean 4.14 V2 lite.

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68 Reply by Xenocyde

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RickyAstle98 wrote:

Hehe))

What happened with this post? Was it inaccurate?

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69 Reply by Xenocyde

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RickyAstle98 wrote:

Wait me here, I will edit my message in next 5 minutes! Check plz!!!
So you need  to put 4.13.onnx into v2 folder where SVP located
https://ibb.co.com/RYCzGRh
If your 1st timing cache build failed, you need enable TRT boost option, 4.7-4.9v2 cant stable buld timing cache for general optimization... Maybe 4.13v2 too? Me too cant build timing cache without TRT enabled!
Yes I tested 60Hz and only CPU usage change a little, anyway I have modern 165Hz GSync monitor, any FPS factor, smooth always!

Ya so, for me, 4.13 V2 only works when I activate performance boost. Seems to be a bit more resource-intensive compared to non-V2, 50-60% 3D utilization. Need to specify that I capped GPU performance to 60 fps so it's using only 150 W instead of 300+ W, that's why it looks like my performance is not scaling well compared to your 144 Hz performance. I've been trying to get a new OLED screen for some time now, but every damned TV model up until now came with some annoying issue... maybe 2024 is the year I get a 55-inch OLED so I can use the GPU at its fullest.

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70 Reply by Xenocyde

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RickyAstle98 wrote:
Xenocyde wrote:

Decided to test 4.13 and 4.13 v2.

4.13 works well, Win resource monitor shows ~50% GPU utilization regardless of the video resolution. I tested with 720p and 1080p videos at 60 Hz. Shouldn't there be some sort of difference between 720p and 1080p? 720p even reaches 60% more often on my RTX 4080. Also, the 4.9 model included with SPV by default now has almost the same performance, mostly sitting at ~50% regardless of resolution.

4.13 v2 doesn't seem to be working, however. Every time I try to play a video, it compiles the cache file and after around 50 seconds it stops and the video plays without RIFE. Can't really see if it gives an error cuz the window closes fast.

Something is wrong bruh >
I have 10700K and RTX 4070 and here is my performance!
4.4v2 720p24>144 (<45% GPU usage) at 165Hz
4.12v2 720p24>144 (<65% GPU usage) at 165Hz
4.13v2 720p24>144 (<70% GPU usage) at 165Hz

I only test with 60 Hz cuz my screen is old af big_smile Have you tested with 60 Hz? I feel like the utilization might not change too much even if refresh is X4+ for me.

dawkinscm wrote:

Make sure you have a 4.13 onnx file in the "v2" folder. If you do then delete it and any files created by it, download the v2 onnx file again and put the new onnx file into the "v2" folder.

Deleted, redownlaoded, still doesn't work. Do I need some new version of Python or TRT maybe?

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71 Reply by Xenocyde

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Decided to test 4.13 and 4.13 v2.

4.13 works well, Win resource monitor shows ~50% GPU utilization regardless of the video resolution. I tested with 720p and 1080p videos at 60 Hz. Shouldn't there be some sort of difference between 720p and 1080p? 720p even reaches 60% more often on my RTX 4080. Also, the 4.9 model included with SPV by default now has almost the same performance, mostly sitting at ~50% regardless of resolution.

4.13 v2 doesn't seem to be working, however. Every time I try to play a video, it compiles the cache file and after around 50 seconds it stops and the video plays without RIFE. Can't really see if it gives an error cuz the window closes fast.

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72 Reply by Xenocyde

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dawkinscm wrote:
Xenocyde wrote:
dawkinscm wrote:

Then it's probably crashing before it completes.

I did not see it try to cache again after, so don't think it crashed the first time.

It doesn't cache in 15 seconds. None of them do.

No even on an RTX 4080?

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73 Reply by Xenocyde

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dawkinscm wrote:
Xenocyde wrote:

Woah, the default 4.9 model you added cached in like 15 seconds. The 4.9 I added some time ago took a minute and a few seconds to cache.

Then it's probably crashing before it completes.

I did not see it try to cache again after, so don't think it crashed the first time.

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74 Reply by Xenocyde

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aostang wrote:
aloola wrote:

it looks like TRT 9.2 fixed the crashed issues when seeking

TRT 9.2 has build-up time faster than TRT 8.xx
https://github.com/AmusementClub/vs-mlrt/discussions/65

need more testing though

Is this something we need to wait for a SVP build to get? The seek hanging has annoyed me for ages.

Also, is there anything that can be done to get rid of the 1-2 second stutter at the start of video playback? (playback starts for like half a second then I lose all frames for about half a second on ncnn/Vulkan but 1-2 full seconds on TRT) I've never been able to resolve this when SVP 4 is enabled with MPC-HC. If I disable SVP 4 it stops happening.

Fyi.. just got VLC working and it does the same stutter on starting a video, so it's not related to just MPC-HC.

Performance boost enabled gets rid of this afaik, provided there is a cache file already.

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75 Reply by Xenocyde

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flowreen91 wrote:

P.S. OMG setting "Scene change threshold" to 100% makes the video look amazing just like the old "Uniform (max fluidity)" setting from https://www.svp-team.com/wiki/Manual:FRC
Why did nobody mention this before? Will only use this from now on. Many thanks!

Woah, I switched SCT to 100% and ya, can't really see any artifacts and sudden camera moves seem almost perfectly smooth on default 4.9.

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