Hi, for as long as I can remember I have been enjoying using SVP and then I got a new update from AMD Crimson and everything went wrong. Every video I start playing, be it anime, movies, tv shows alike I get dropped frames and don't know how to avoid it.

My setup.
MOBO: Asus Z170 Pro gaming
CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 (non-k)
GPU: AMD Radeon Sapphire R9 390 8GB
RAM: HyperX Fury DRR4 16GB
OS: Windows 10 64-bit

Setup for videos:
SVP 4: http://i.imgur.com/lvLVIkn.png (Disabled grid step, but everything else is same)
Threads: Tried auto, 7, using 9 now (not good?)
MadVR: Custom settings
Reclock: Custom settings
LAV: Copyback is ON
Resolution I use: 480p, 720p, 1080p
Frame rates I use: 72 and 75
Source rate I mostly use or might need to: 23.976, 24, 25 and 30
Videoplayer: Potplayer
Monitor: Default 60Hz - overclocked to 71.928Hz

What I found out so far:
I get dropped frames while using MadVR 2-3 ever so seconds.
I get dropped frames, and alot of jitter (possibly other issues) even while using Custom preset

I hope anyone can help me with this, so I can return to enjoying SVP.

Thank you!

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Mystery wrote:
TayyabKhalid wrote:

Oh, so I can get 72fps. Could you please give me instruction on how to do so, I don't have a clue, even thouh I did check the interframe documentation.

Change NewNum
InterFrame(Cores=8, Tuning="Smooth", NewNum=72, NewDen=1, GPU=true)

AndyDragneel wrote:

I tried the media encoder but.....when i select the file and then i click "encode" the cmd appear and disappear after 1 sec.....what should i do?

i think that this is the error: LoadPlugin: unable to load "C:Progamfiles ecc ecc LSMASHSource.dll",Module found.
Install missing library?
(C:/NaturalGrounding/Temp/Jobi_Script.avs,line 2)

You can try an utility like this to install all VC++ redistributable
http://appnee.com/vc-redist-installer/

I tried to find the specific line but couldn't. I have to go in to the directory path of NgP and then encoder, from there open InterFrame2 via notepad, right?

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Mystery wrote:

1. As MAG79 said
2. You can get 72fps by editing the script manually and changing the parameters of InterFrame (see InterFrame documentation)
3. Yes.

For LSMASHSource.dll not loading, the only thing I can think of is missing VC++ redistributable; not sure which version is required for this.

For failing to load h265 video, LSMASHSource is failing. As an alternative, you can use the option to convert the video to AVI and it will load just fine.

Oh, so I can get 72fps. Could you please give me instruction on how to do so, I don't have a clue, even thouh I did check the interframe documentation.

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I didn't even know this software existed, can't wait to try it once I get home! ^^

I have some questions though:

1. Does this software disable SVP automatically for videos who have been encoded via the software?
2. Will I be able to change my framerate to 72fps, or is the highest 60fps at this moment?
3. Will I be able to use other video players beside MP-HC, like Potplayer for instance?

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ArcticWolf_11

Better late than never, am I right? Thanks for sharing this, I appreciate it a lot. After changing my settings to yours I see so many changes already, like for instance, my CPU usage is even lower and more stable. What is this magic?
Thank again! big_smile

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ArcticWolf_11 wrote:
Nintendo Maniac 64 wrote:
ArcticWolf_11 wrote:

Thanks, your explanation of the settings really helped a lot. Is there anything else that I can do to get maximum smoothness, perhaps changing settings in the video player or MadVR and Reclock?

The only other thing is to make sure that you're doing interpolation by an exact multiple, like 24fps @ x3 to 72fps rather than to 75fps.

Since you have a G-sync monitor, your monitor should automatically match its refresh rate to the interpolated frame rate and therefore you don't have to worry about matching and changing refresh rates and stuff - just make sure G-sync is working and you'll be fine!


Also, with Chainlink's settings, you could try to increase the settings for motion vectors precision, motion vectors grid, and processing of scene changes, but be wary as they may increase the artifacting to unacceptable as well.

Thanks for all the help! Is there a manual with a description of all the settings and what they do, if not will one be made soon?

Could you share with me yours "Override.js" instead? I dont know if I need to just copy and then paste, or do I need to do something more and its not that easy? In that case I would liked if you shared your copy of the mentioned file.

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Nintendo Maniac 64 wrote:
kevingwn wrote:

super_params="{pel:1,scale:{up:0},gpu:1,full:true}"
analyse_params="{block:{w:32,h:32},main:{search:{coarse:{distance:-12,bad:{sad:2000}},distance:-8},levels:3},refine:[{search:{distance:-6}},{search:{distance:-4}}]}"
smoothfps_params="{rate:{num:5,den:2},algo:23,mask:{cover:80},scene:{mode:0}}"

I wouldn't be surprised if the OP hasn't a clue what settings that script corresponds to; heck, I don't even know!

How do I get around to using these script? Would very much appreciate it, if you shared the instructions.

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Chainik wrote:

mpv is 64 bit only and it's better big_smile

So I can't use Potplayer or any other video players and have to get used to MPV?

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Hi!
I have been using 32-bit for SVP for awhile now and seen that people are changing over to 64-bit, why is that? Is it any better, what are the advantages, and what makes 64-bit better?
Thanks! smile

Nintendo Maniac 64 wrote:

Quick question - what's your CPU?


Anyway, have you tried enabling "use direct3d 11 for presentation" in MadVR?

my CPU is i5-6600 non-k Skylake.

Yes I have tried to enable it, same result, unfortunately sad

Nintendo Maniac 64 wrote:

Oh snap, the issue is caused by MadVR?  Well then, forget the stuff I mentioned about MadVR - use EVR instead!

I'm not familiar with your setup, so you'll need to bear with me for a few more questions:

1. Are you using EVR in PotPlayer rather than MPC-HC?

2. Does the issue still not occur if you set your resizer (found on the same screen as the setting for EVR) to one of the bicubic options (0.60 is softest; 1.00 is sharpest)?  I say this because bicubic is better in nearly all situations unless you're using like 10 year old PC hardware (I'm not exaggerating either).

3. Are you able to find an option screen that looks something like this?
http://i.imgur.com/fAP5mHZ.jpg

Sorry I was sleeping, that's why my response was late.

Anyway. I am using EVR in Potplayer, and I don't want to change player if possible, since I really love the functionality of Potplayer and all the feature I can use.

My GPU is R9 390 8GB so i should be able to max it but then again, i am always up for opinions. I will try it.

Potplayer dosen't have that kind of option, which is sad, considering madVR is the culprit behind my problem and I can't do anything about it, until the creator decide to release a new version which fixes this issue and other bugs it may have.

Do you have any solution to fix the rising FPS. There might be something in madVR causing it, but then again. You dont use madVR. Do you?

Nintendo Maniac 64 wrote:

Chainlink, does PotPlayer even have an EVR and Direct3D Fullscreen option?

TayyabKhalid wrote:

madVR is greedy and won't hold the frame rate I wish it for, and therefore it decide to goes crazy mode with fps.

Wait, what?  MadVR, not SVP?  Are you sure about this?

If you haven't done it already, try closing SVP by right-clicking on its icon in the bottom right in the tray area and then selecting "Close" (or "exit" or "quit" or similar, I don't quite remember 100% what it says and I can't check).

Then try playing a video and see if your framerate goes crazy.  Yes it'll only be a 24fps or similar, but we need to make sure that it is in fact SVP and not MadVR.

I just tried exiting SVP as you mentioned. And just like I taught, when I had my renderer on madVR. My fps kept rising after a minute or so. and when I paused the video it went full retard mode. Then I changed to EVR and it kept on the video frame rate like it should, and no sign of rise either. Really hope madVR creator fixes this issue, I really like using it a lot.

Nintendo Maniac 64 wrote:

3 hours later than I hoped, I'm back!

The issue is, I don't believe PotPlayer has a built-in resolution changer like MadVR does, so using EVR would prevent the use of MadVR's automatic resolution changer.


Anyway, about MadVR's upscaling, unless you're using a CRT monitor or an HDTV, 99% of the time the upscaling done by MadVR will look quite a bit better even if you use lower-end settings like Lanczos.  Try that with a 720p or lower resolution video and see how the quality compares vs actually setting your screen resolution to 720p or whatever.

Setting your scaling algorithm is easy - just go into the MadVR settings and, under "scaling algorithms", set the scaling to whatever you want (start with something more basic like lanczos) for every single sub selection where it's an available option (should be in "chroma upscaling", "image downscaling", and "image upscaling".




Oh, and while comparing scaling algorithms and the like. it might be wise to disable SVP if the frame rate issue gets in the way.

Thanks for the tips, but the problem is that madVR is greedy and won't hold the frame rate I wish it for, and therefore it decide to goes crazy mode with fps. DO you have any solution to how I could make madVR only interpolate 72Hz?

MAG79 wrote:

TayyabKhalid
EVR Custom is good choice. You can stay with EVR if you have weak GPU or you don't see difference.

For now I am going to use EVR, but my PC should be able to handle madVR, the only thing that won't let me use it to the fullest, is that stupid issue. Which makes my FPS rise higher than what I have set it on. And therefore my video start lagging and stuttering, I still experience some stutter now and then while using EVR. Any tips? smile

Nintendo Maniac 64 wrote:
TayyabKhalid wrote:

I have already made custom resolution for 72.928 if that's what you mean.

No I actually mean 72.000Hz.  The thing is that 24.000fps content does actually exist, not just 23.976fps content.

TayyabKhalid wrote:

720p, 480p and even 360p sometimes if the anime doesn't exist in higher resolution.

Uhhh, considering that your display is natively 1080p, doesn't this kind of defeat the purpose of using MadVR?  I mean, the main purpose of MadVR is to do high-quality upscaling...


Beware, I'm going to be away from my PC for the next hour, so I won't be able to respond until maybe then, but after that I won't be around for like 2-3 hours.

Okay, just like you said I made another custom resolution 72.000Hz I had 60.000HZ from before.

Also I am only using madVR because I got recommended to it, and even then it looks like I might need it to setup for other frame rates. Also I do notice some different but, other than that. Was that all? So how do I setup?
Thank you! smile

So I did a little research myself and actually tried to use EVR custom Preset instead of madVR and what do you know. My FPS is stuck on 72fps and dosen't rise higher. So in other words it wasn't SVP that was making my SVP rise but madVR lol.

Nintendo Maniac 64 wrote:

Ok good!

One more thing before we get to the MadVR part - do think you can make a custom resolution for 72.000Hz as well?  Also you might want to check and see if you've got resolutions for both 59.94Hz and 60.000Hz (if not, add whichever is missing).


Lastly, what is the actual screen resolution of your display, or at least what resolution (not refresh rate!) do you use for all of your video watching?

I have already made custom resolution for 72.928 if that's what you mean. Also I already have 59.94 and 60.000Hz as you mentioned. My monitor resolution is 1920x1080,  but I use 1080p, 720p, 480p and even 360p sometimes if the anime doesn't exist in higher resolution.

Nintendo Maniac 64 wrote:
TayyabKhalid wrote:

Also I don't use 48 or 50 fps, but you never know when you might suddenly need it, if its not that rare then we can skip it, or if you want you could give the instruction for those frame rates too. Thank you very much! smile

Well SVP doesn't even interpolate framerates above 47fps by default; I was just thinking that 50fps at 50Hz is actually smoother than 50fps at 75Hz when not using interpolation.  More info on all of this can be found here: http://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=56025


Anyway, do you use MadVR at all?

Thing is, I regularly use MPC-HC and it has a built-in resolution changer so that you can do things like automatically use 72Hz for 24fps videos, 75Hz for 25fps videos, and 60Hz for 30fps videos.  However, from what I can tell, PotPlayer does not have such functionality and therefore you have to use MadVR (which is compatible with PotPlayer) in order to achieve this functionality.

Yeah! I use madVR on Potplayer alongside Reclock and LAV filters, if you are wondering that too smile
But I don't know how to set up that functionality inside madVR.

Nintendo Maniac 64 wrote:

D'oh!  You posted before I finished editing!  tongue


Basically if you could get a custom resolution for 75Hz as well, that'll help quite a bit because 24fps and 25fps are so close to one another that what works for one almost always works for the other.


Oh, while I'm at it, do you ever watch content with a native framerate of 48fps or 50fps?

Just like you said I made 75Hz custom resolution too, but I have set it to 72Hz. But I have the option to change to 75Hz if I want to.

Also I don't use 48 or 50 fps, but you never know when you might suddenly need it, if its not that rare then we can skip it, or if you want you could give the instruction for those frame rates too. Thank you very much! smile

Nintendo Maniac 64 wrote:

I don't think it's the cause of the rising fps, but it's certainly not that great motion and artifact wise to use 72Hz for anything other than 24fps; this is because framerates like 25 and 30 are not at all exact multiples of 72.

OK, now that we've covered that, next question - does your display natively support 75Hz?  If not, then did your display natively support 72Hz out-of-the-box?  If it did not, then did you have to make a custom resolution for it?  If so, could you make an additional custom resolution specifically for 75.000Hz?

Not it does not support 75Hz natively, also I overclocked my monitor from 60Hz to 72Hz. After that I made a custom resolution and just changed to 72Hz and been using it now for awhile. Should I make one for 75Hz too?

Oops

Nintendo Maniac 64 wrote:
TayyabKhalid wrote:

72.928Hz

Uhhh, surely this is a typo, right?  For 23.976fps you'd want to run at 71.928Hz...

TayyabKhalid wrote:

I also run 24 and 25, and 30fps

Do you use 72Hz for all of these frame rates?

Yes! Since I dont have much clue at SVP at all lol. Is that bad, and might be the reason for rising fps?
Anyway I am going to bed, I hope you could help me. Would greatly appreciate it. Good night!
Also I meant 71.928 and not 72.928, it was a typo.

Chainik wrote:

do you really think making more forum threads could help?

I am sorry, was just a bit desperate since I have been having issue for more than two months or more.

Nintendo Maniac 64 wrote:

Well before I do that I need to know one thing - do you ever watch videos that have a source framerate other than 24fps / 23.976fps? (such as 20fps, 25fps, 30fps, 50fps, 60fps, etc.)

If you do, then what refresh rate does your display run at for those framerates?  Surely you don't use 72Hz for everything...right?

I am running my monitor at 71.928Hz only the first one in which I watch the videos. I run 23(976)fps a lot, but sometime Its 2-3 fps more. Sometime I also run 24 and 25, and 30fps. Would appreciate if it where possible to set up for those frame rates too.

Nintendo Maniac 64 wrote:

Are you not using my work-around that I mentioned in your previous thread?
http://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopic … 971#p59971

Or do you not know how to set something like that up and would like me to step you through it step by step?

I don't know if did it correctly but could you go through it step by step? Would appreciate it.

I have already reported but no reply, can someone please help me fix this stupid issue, where my FPS keeps rising even when I pause the video. It goes to ridiculous number like 100-300 and my video starts lagging and I am unable to enjoy the video I am watching. PLEASE HELP!! sad

I am using Potplayer with madVR and Reclock, but I have tested it on MP-HC, same results on both players.