51 Reply by ionutm80

(39 replies, posted in Using SVP)

Hi, sorry, I tried to download your samples in the evening but it showed 7-8 hrs download time so I gave up ... and only tested with my 1080p blu-ray rips (I do them with eac3to and leave the video stream untouched). However paying only attention to madVR stats, SVP performance graphs and GPU-Z sensors I completely neglected actually watching the movie ... and I have discovered that in spite madVR showing 1 frame repeat / drop every 57-58 minutes, CPU load below 90% in SVP graphs, ReClock green icon and GPU load at 60-70% in GPU-Z the movie was in fact non watchable with constant hick-ups like it was stuttering for 1 sec each minute. So following your assumption I tried 2 options: madVR w/o SVP and SVP+EVR-CP and both were very smooth, no issue at all ... It seems that, as you pointed out, madVR + SVP (even 1g) is too much for my rig. To be honest I've managed to replicate the hick-ups on a much slower laptop (Intel Celeron 1017u, HD Graphics) when I've turned smooth motion on in madVR (rest of the settings were identical).
What does bother me is why SVP+madVR do not get together on my NUC even if the GPU is not fully utilised, 60-70% GPU load does not seem huge for me. I know that playing only with madVR settings I've managed to push the load on GPU to 99% !!!

So now comes the tricky question: which option to choose? madVR w/o SVP and maybe see if smooth motion ON works or stick to SVP + EVR-CP. My movies are only 3 kinds: blu-ray rips (video, audio streams untouched), 25p DVDs rips (MPEG2-->h264) and short movies made with a Samsung S4 camera.

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52 Reply by ionutm80

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Hi, I had a short opportunity window and tested the new settings at home. It improved a little the playback at 2g profile (CPU at 85-92% vs 95-98-99% before) but in madVR stats I saw a significant increase of dropping frames and ReClock could not lock itself on the screen resolution (changing constantly from green to red)... NO GO for me. I switched back to 1g, no more dropped frames after 2-3 min ... but I see 1 frame repeat every 57-58 minutes which is very strange because the only thing I've changed was the audio device (ASUS Xonar U3 on USB vs Intel HD Audio onboard) and previously I had 1 frame drop every 1.2 days! ReClock is green and stable...

By the way I'm on Win 10.

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53 Reply by ionutm80

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Hi, been gone through the wk and didn't have time to test. In the meantime I have upgraded the NUC with an Asus Xonar U3 and will have to re-work the settings.
On my HTPC 1 I have an Asus Xonar U7 and until I configured it properly madVR showed a lot of dropped frames after SVP+ReClock. I will test your recommended settings tonight and revert with feedback.
Q: U3 only supports 48 Hz / 16 bit , should I put this in ReClock or leave "Same as input"/ 24 bit padded into 32?

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54 Reply by ionutm80

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Hi,

My own config on a GTX 750 TI (HTPC1):
- Chroma: BCB75AR
- Image Up: LZ3AR
- Luma Doubling: NNEDI 32 neurons, only if scalling factor is 1.2x
- Image Down: CRARLL
- Dithering: Ordered
- Smooth Motion: OFF since I'm using SVP 4G for my 60Hz TV
- 1 frame drop every 1.2 days

Some people also create profiles for SD, 720p and 1080p with different settings. It's a trial and error approach until you find the right settings with your hardware and most of the times is a matter of taste (some prefer Jinc, I prefer luma doubling + Lanczos 3 taps for image upscalling).

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55 Reply by ionutm80

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@ Nintendo Maniac 64

Thanks a lot for the tips, I'll try them over the wk and revert with a feedback.

I already tried the 59Hz refresh rate of my TV ... but:
1. my eyes were hurting a little (almost imperceptible flickering spotted vs what I'm used to ... sitting 1.5 m away from the screen), either it's just me being crazy and it's only in my mind or I'm so used to 60Hz that I cannot accept anything else.
2. still see 1 frame repeat every 30-40 minutes w/o ReClock in madVR stats

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56 Reply by ionutm80

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Hi and thanks for the tips,

I will set 2g then try 2 only first and then maybe 1, for 3 and 4 I do not think there is a real issue, HD 4400 with 20EUs seem more than capable (GPU load is at max 70-75% with 2g and madVR).

Yes I do not have the program listed in Installed Program in Windows but I admit I only selected the SVP core to instal since for the rest: avisynth, mpc-hc, madVR and ReClock I prefer to keep my existing tweaks.

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57 Reply by ionutm80

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Ok, tried again still with 3.1.7 and this time I have watched more carefully the system load: GPU load with GPU-Z and CPU load with the performance graphs in SVP.
At 1g, GPU was about 60-65% load and CPU at 70-85% load while at 2g the GPU was more close to 70-75% but the CPU went up a lot to 95-99% leading SVP to warn about usage ... so the sad conclusion is that my Core I3 within the NUC is not up to the task for even 2g, being far below its desktop brothers ... what a disappointment. I was more impressed with the HD 4400 which seems a little bit more capable than DXVA scaling even up to Lanczos 3 Taps but on the other hand the scaling done by Intel DXVA is somehow very similar to LZ3AR with less usage so not a gain here. Bottom line is that with this NUC SVP has enough room in GPU load for 2g but the CPU simply cannot handle it.
I also did a quick test with SVP4 but I did not notice significant improvement, it even messed something when interacting with ReClock and I had to re-work the settings again ... very strange. I switched back to 3.1.7 since the new one is a bit misleading for me now and I will probably continue to enjoy very smooth playback with SVP at 1g and madVR showing 1 drop frame every 1.2 days.

Anyway I also wanted to say SVP is simply brilliant and for me the combo madVR+SVP+ReClock+LAVFilters+Kodi/MPC-HC is the best combination for enjoying a true home theater experience.

By the way, 1 question: how do we uninstall SVP4, simply delete the folder in Program Files? I did not see it listed in installed programs in Windows while SVP 3.1.7 is listed.

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58 Reply by ionutm80

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Chainik wrote:

try SVP 4, it should be more intelligent...

I will, is it possible to install only the SVP 4 manager w/o mpc-hc, ReClock, madVR, etc.? Once full (mean not free) SVP will be released I will only have to input the SN / Key and the SVP Free will turn into a full one? Or I will need uninstall this one and reinstall the full version?

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59 Reply by ionutm80

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Core I3 3220T, 2.8 GHz is IvyBridge LV, 3701 Passmark, can do 4g (I admit paired with GTX 750 TI)
Core I3 4010u, 1.7 GHz is Haswell ULV, 2448 Passmark, can only do 1g (can only test with iGPU, HD 4400 being a NUC ...)

I can clearly see that the new CPU is less powerful by a ratio of x1.5 but to cause a downgrade to 1g in SVP I could only understand it if madVR is saturating in fact the iGPU and there are no more resources there for SVP (even if not much is requested) ... and anyway madVR is only using DXVA for scaling

Best settings mean if I can squeeze more with a user-defined profile. I'm a noob in what regards advanced settings in SVP and that's why I asked here but best settings for me would be more smooth and less artifacts.

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60 Topic by ionutm80

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Hi all,

I have as 2nd HTPC an Intel NUC with a Core I3 4010u, 1.7GHz, HD Graphics 4400 with 20EUs. I'm running both madVR and SVP for 1080p movies (mainly high quality blu-ray rips) on a 1366x768 60Hz TV (Sony KDL 26EX320). At the moment everything works pretty smooth: madVR tweaked to use DXVA for image up/down, NNEDI32 for luma doubling (GPU usage 70%) but ... SVP only works at 1g profile! Is not that I'm dissatisfied but I'm wondering how come a Haswell CPU at 1.7 GHz, 2 cores, 4 Threads only supports 1g profile? Previously I owned a Core I3 3220T, 2.8GHz and even 4g was possible indeed with a more potent GPU (GTX 750TI) ...

Is it something that I can tweak in the profile to get better than I'm currently have with 1g? I was expecting at least 2g but at that profile the video becomes choppy. HW decoding is DXVA-Copy back in LAV Video and I'm also using ReClock to adjust speed to 59.94.

I have also purchased SVP4, do you think I could get a performance improvement on my rig?

Thanks in advance for feedback.

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61 Reply by ionutm80

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ionutm80 wrote:
Link wrote:

When i tired it, i hit a wall similar to what your describing.
I downgraded my ffdshow version to "ffdshow_rev4532_20140717_clsid" it magically started working.
At some time during this process i also installed MatroskaSplitter, but i don't think that helped the situation.
Anyhow i happen to have the config files, so i attached them to this post, i hope this helps.

Thanks a lot. I will try your files and revert with a feedback.

Hi, I have returned with a feedback.

I have uninstalled completely everything and performed a clean install for ffdshow, haali, avysinth, svp, mpc-hc, laf filters, kodi dsplayer. I used your files and ... IT WORKED. SVP is now loading with Kodi DSPlayer!!!

THANKS A LOT FOR SUPPORT!

I still have 1 problem with madVR showing 1 frame repeat every 0.97 seconds but it might be linked to my TV 50Hz resolution and the fact that I'm not using ReClock due to bitstreaming (render time is way below movie frame interval, GPU load around 60% so I haven't exagerated with my settings). But I think this is for another forum ...

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62 Reply by ionutm80

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Link wrote:

When i tired it, i hit a wall similar to what your describing.
I downgraded my ffdshow version to "ffdshow_rev4532_20140717_clsid" it magically started working.
At some time during this process i also installed MatroskaSplitter, but i don't think that helped the situation.
Anyhow i happen to have the config files, so i attached them to this post, i hope this helps.

Thanks a lot. I will try your files and revert with a feedback.

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63 Reply by ionutm80

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I will revert with my config file. The kodi version is DSPlayer 15.2 RC2 Isengard DX11 - build (20150920-5eef595) from http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=223175.

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64 Topic by ionutm80

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Hi,

I'm having a nasty problem regarding the use of SVP with Kodi DSPlayer and madVR.
My spec: Core I5 3470S, GTX 750 TI, Win 10.

First I have installed MPC-HC, LAV Filters, madVR, ffdshow, SVP Light and I had perfect playback of any 1080p blu-ray rips with both madVR and SVP enabled.
Consequently I have tried to replicate the same behavior by using Kodi with DSPlayer. I have set a rule for playing mkvs with lavfsplitter, lavfsource, lavvideo, lavaudio, xySubFilter and added as extra filter ffdshow raw. The video renderer is set as madVR and audio renderer is ReClock. The video start, madVR loads but NOT SVP ... and I'm very frustrated because for me this is the perfect set-up. SVP is 3.1.7 version, I have just purchased a SVP 4 perk on Indiegogo and I'm going to try also this tonight.

Can anyone point me into the right direction please? What am I not doing right in Kodi if in MPC-HC is working perfect? I have even checked the my mediasconfig.xml with the one on the SVP wiki and all codecs are in place ...

What I know for sure is that it's not related to Win 10. I previously had Win 8.1 and it didn't work either.

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