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dawkinscm wrote:Thanks to @Minimunch57 for posting the latest Rife 4.8 update. At one point I saw a massive GPU usage improvement, but that was temporary. With Rife 4.7 there is a clear visual improvement over 4.6. The only difference I see in 4.8 is that the optimization completes in less than a minute as opposed to the 3-5 minutes on previous versions.
Can you please post the link?
L.E.: Found in another thread, never mind.
L.E.2: Ah but this is not an onnx file. How do I install this in SVP?
aloola wrote:Blackfyre wrote:New nVidia driver, 545.84 WHQL
Additionally, this Game Ready Driver introduces TensorRT acceleration for Stable Diffusion to increase performance by up to 2x.
I assume this doesn't impact us, right? Would be nice if we can get a 2x performance lift.
I've just tested with the new driver, no performance boost
Maybe the devs need to update the RIFE model first? Not sure if it makes any difference as the performance boost is specifically targeted at Stable Diffusion image generation, so it might not work for frame generation. Maybe the improved frame generation included with DLSS 3.5 could help RIFE?
I installed the latest update and now RIFE does not seem to work anymore in MPV. Also reinstalled SVP and still not working. Not sure what happened or maybe I'm missing something.
L.E.: Weird, it worked after a restart. But why wouldn't it work immediately after I reinstalled?
chrisssj2 wrote:Whats the real benefit of using this? are there comparison screenshots somewhere?
You need to see video comparisons, not just pics. Search for SVP Rife on Youtube.
Blackfyre wrote:It could possibly be pushed early towards end of 2024 (they have done it before), but it won't happen unless AMD release something big next year. And nVidia will probably release the RTX 4090 Ti next year to try to milk the most out of the 40 Series before the 50 series release.
They always kept a 2-year release cadence since GTX 1000. Don't see why they would change this now, regardless of what AMD is doing. RTX 3090 Ti was released early 2022 and then they released RTX 4000 in late 2022 too.
Blackfyre wrote:Not upgrading to the 4090 now, going to wait for the 5090 release in 2025.
New leaks point to a 2H 2024 release.
https://twitter.com/Kepler_L2/status/17 … 4838308343
dawkinscm wrote:I get occasional but predictable micro stutters. The kind I probably wouldn't notice on a smaller screen like a TV. Yesterday, the mpv source was updated with a few nano-second timing updates (including vsync) that I thought might make a difference. With the new build the micro stutters are now nano stutters. The difference is subtle and may be placebo but it seems to be repeatable.
Ya, forgot to mention that I notice microstutters with the 4.7 model. This plus the fact that it does not improve artifacts in any meaningful way led me to stick to 4.6.
dawkinscm wrote:Xenocyde wrote:I deleted the 4.4 model and now the 4.4 option in the UI does not work. What do I need to change to add 4.7 in the UI?
L.E.: Never mind, I renamed 4.7 to 4.4 and seems to be working now.
Cool! Did it create cache entries or are you still using the original cache entries that were generated by 4.4?
It created new cache entries indeed. However, I don't really see any improvements in regards to artifacts. Fast-moving objects against more complex backgrounds still show mostly the same contour artifacts. Not sure if replacing the 4.4 model and renaming 4.7 works properly.
I deleted the 4.4 model and now the 4.4 option in the UI does not work. What do I need to change to add 4.7 in the UI?
L.E.: Never mind, I renamed 4.7 to 4.4 and seems to be working now.
Chainik wrote:> how do I add it manually ?
mmm.... replace rife_v4.4.onnx with rife_v4.7.onnx?
OK, thanks!
L.E.: I deleted 4.4 and added 4.7, but the UI still shows 4.4. Do I need to change anything else?
@Chainik: Maybe worth adding 4.7 to SVP too? If not... how do I add it manually ?
dawkinscm wrote:You don't need any particular resolution see the artefacts with software interpolation. Rife mostly has much less of them but the few I have seen tend to more obvious. With whatever benefit Rife Ensemble might provide, those same Rife artefacts are made even worse.
Oh ya I'm aware of the artifacts, especially on fast moving objects and camera pans. I thought you were talking about Ensemble at 4K, as many people reported artifacts that only occur in 4K mode, but I can't test that since my TV is 1080p. Hopefully they can fix most of these problems with a new Rife version. I'm surprised that we haven't received a new version with how fast devs release text to image generation models these days. I know it's not the same thing, but Rife 4.6 is almost 1 year old... was hoping to see a new version integrating some deblur tech too by now.
dawkinscm wrote:Xenocyde wrote:dawkinscm wrote:What happened with this? Are you using it for Rife? Have you tried Ensemble?
I got the new PC but have no idea how to setup the deblur model. I reached out to UHD via PM, no answer since May... maybe you can assist me?
Not something I even knew about to be honest. I have a similar setup to you and I was only interested in Ensemble which I have now tested and confirmed that it did make existing Rife artefacts worse.
Ah I see. I haven't tested Ensemble cuz I haven't yet got a 4K screen (minght get a QD-OLED next year, since the 2023 Samsung ones still have some problems). Waiting for a new Rife version, hope it comes out soon. Also, hope UHD sees this comment and reaches out with some instructions to test the deblur model 
dawkinscm wrote:Xenocyde wrote:UHD wrote:If anyone has run this model and shared the results of its performance in scenes with dynamic action I would be very grateful.
I'm getting a new desktop setup with an i7-13700K and RTX 4080 next week, so I can test by then.
What happened with this? Are you using it for Rife? Have you tried Ensemble?
I got the new PC but have no idea how to setup the deblur model. I reached out to UHD via PM, no answer since May... maybe you can assist me?
UHD wrote:Xenocyde wrote:UHD wrote:If anyone has run this model and shared the results of its performance in scenes with dynamic action I would be very grateful.
I'm getting a new desktop setup with an i7-13700K and RTX 4080 next week, so I can test by then.
Super!
Hopefully also the fastest RAM - will come in handy with RIFE in 4K
It's Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5600 but it can be OC-ed to 6000 or even more, I'll see the exact limits.
UHD wrote:If anyone has run this model and shared the results of its performance in scenes with dynamic action I would be very grateful.
I'm getting a new desktop setup with an i7-13700K and RTX 4080 next week, so I can test by then.
Wow... just wow... looks like it was well worth waiting for UHD's latest developments. I'm all for this new deblurring model, but how can we help exactly? What coding skills are needed? Maybe I can ask some coders I know, but what exactly do I tell them?
Xenocyde wrote:FenceMan wrote:Is there anyway to get rid of this thing that pops up everytime I start to play something with RIFE? Once I close the window everything plays fine.
It cannot be disabled if you use performance mode, but it only pops up when a certain resolution is not already stored in the timing cache. You need to let the timing build for ~3 minutes every time, don't close the window before it closes automatically. There are only a few timings for movies, but you may encounter specific ones for certain TV series.
zSoi wrote:Some newbie questions here :
Owner of a rtx3080 12600k, I like the smoothness SVP can get me, but sometimes artifacts are annoying.
What can I expect from this rife ai engine ? is it worth the time to set it up ? I'm watching movies on an ultrawide HDR display 3440x1440, usually x5 frames per sec. (and I don't know if its revelant but my movies are 4k and about 30/50 Gb per movie.
From what I read, RTX3080 is not enough for 4K HDR with RIFE. Even the RTX4090 struggles at more than X3. Also, RIFE V2 seems to be bugged for 4K vids as it lowers the resolution for some reason. But there supposedly is something better than RIFE, we're waiting for UHD to unveil it 
UHD wrote:Xenocyde wrote:UHD wrote:If anyone is interested in much, much better quality than RIFE interpolation I will write about it soon, here on this forum. Please give me another week, maybe two weeks, until I update my repository on GitHub.
2 weeks are up, UHD! Time to spill the beans, don't keep us boiling here
I'll be back with information by the end of April for sure.
I understand you are most likely busy, but May is here.
UHD wrote:If anyone is interested in much, much better quality than RIFE interpolation I will write about it soon, here on this forum. Please give me another week, maybe two weeks, until I update my repository on GitHub.
2 weeks are up, UHD! Time to spill the beans, don't keep us boiling here
Blackfyre wrote:Sopheus wrote:Not sure how everyone is able to play on x3 in 4K
Here's your issue.
2.5X should work too I think.
Tested MPC-HC with Avatar 2. 3D load was hitting 80% and after around 1h it jumped to 100% for about 5 seconds. MPV has similar load, max 85%. After that, I decided to test once again with HAGS turned off. 3D load sits at 15% even in MPV! Haven't noticed spikes for the remainder of the movie (around 2 more hours). Can't remember the exact improvements with HAGS off for V1 ... maybe 3D load was 20% lower because I was still getting spikes to 100% although less frequent. V2 is waaay better in this regard.
dawkinscm wrote: I moved away from MPC (with MadVR) because it was usable with Rife. With MPV I get better performance, almost perfect smoothness, less artefacts and much better interpolated picture quality than with MPC/MadVR so I can never go back. With a 3070 laptop GPU you are always going to have issues but maybe with MPC it will work better for you.
I installed MPC-HC and configured it to run through VapourSynth. Have you tested with this setup? I'm testing now, will report any improvements on the 3D load later.
L.E: Tried a 40 minute episode. Everything seems the same in MPC-HC quality-wise, except the 3D load is 10% lower on average. MPV hits 70%, while MPC-HC barely hits 60%. This could be good news, but need to test further with a long movie, as the frame drops rarely occur in 40 minute episodes with MPV as well.
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