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(3 replies, posted in Using SVP)

For this "problem" I normally just open an MKV that's just the video stream with Avidemux (free, open-source software) and then use it to copy the raw video stream into an an AVI or MP4 container.  Works every time except that it likes to insist that 30.000fps content is 29.97. tongue

MAG79 wrote:

Select CUVID or DXVA2 (copy-back).

I must recommend against doing this - another user on this very forum was recently having problems with high CPU load until he switched from CUVID to DXVA2 (copy-back).  In my experience Intel QuickSync is a better alternative if you need such a thing.

Relevant thread in question:
http://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2589

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(185 replies, posted in Using SVP)

Uhhh... if your CPU is hitting that temp at full load, then maybe you should tweak your fan curve a bit...

You could have just used your keyboard's "Print Screen" key...

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(38 replies, posted in Using SVP)

ithehappy wrote:

It works! I changed it back to DXVA2 and the video is playing smoothly!

WOW! I hate this CUDA thing then tongue

Well, I imagine that there's a reason the SVP wiki page for configuring MPC-HC does not mention CUVID at all. tongue

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(38 replies, posted in Using SVP)

ithehappy wrote:

Someone said to change the LAV filter to CUVID, but I see that its already enabled by default..

Hah! Well then do the opposite - try DXVA2 (copy-back); this is normally what SVP is configured to by default anyway.

EDIT:

ithehappy wrote:

However under External filter tab I only see ffdshow as filter, do I need to add LAV Video decoder here?

No; you can find LAVfilters via MPC-HC in Options -> Internal Filters -> Video Decoders

1,107

(7 replies, posted in Using SVP)

Nevertheless, if you're that concerned about it, you can always try 48hz instead.

Alternatively, you could even *gasp* lower your screen resolution to something that you know supports 75hz and then make a custom resolution at that same resolution but with a refresh rate of 72hz.

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(38 replies, posted in Using SVP)

...why would you need to install a codec pack when MPC-HC comes with LAVfilters?

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(185 replies, posted in Using SVP)

Anyway, regarding the actual encoding, everything seems fine with the 18-second test clip I tried.  However, I couldn't help but notice that the bitrate even at the higher encoding setting is a bit low... the source was 3.5Mbps @ 720p25 while the final encoding was 5Mbps @ 720p60 - unless the program calculates the increase in bitrate based on what the source bitrate is combined with the resulting resolution and framerate?  Then in that case it'd likely be fine since my main worry was for things of a higher bitrate.

Secondly, I also noticed that the resulting video is 59.97fps rather than a flat 60fps.  Considering that I'm encoding from a flat 25fps and SVP has the 2.4x option for 25--to->60 which would also result in a flat 60, I'm wondering if the final encoding will actually have the video be a teeny bit slower than it should be...

Thirdly, with a long video (read: 1+ hour), you need quite a lot of disk space... I did not realize this as I was using an 8GB ramdisk for the program's temp folder.

Lastly, the interpolated framerate choices are quite limited - there's minimal choices for 24fps and especially 25fps content if you want to do an exact multiple of the source framerate that is greater than 2x.  Yes you could use 120fps for 24fps, but there really should be some thing(s) in the middle like 72fps and 96fps, not to mention 75fps and 100fps for 25fps content.


EDIT:, and the big one - the encoder can't browse your hard drive for videos!  It insists on only looking in the specified NGP folder, so I'm cheating by using symbolic links.

EDIT 2: Oh. my. bloody. nora.  8GB of TEMP data only encoded a whopping 1 and a half minutes?  The whole video is over an hour!  I don't even have a single hard drive that's 500GB except for a single USB 2.0 external drive, but that would take forever!

EDIT 3: I just realized that the preview.avi isn't even interpolated...so why does NGP even need decode the source video into a lossless format then?  Can't it just decode directly from the source video file?

EDIT 4: Whelp, I know why I can't decode directly from the source file now.  Simply put, it doesn't work - it just gives me a video with a black screen.  What I tried to do was select my video, then delete the preview.avi file (which normally it doesn't let me do, but for some reason it let me do it one time), and then copy my own AVI file and rename it preview.avi and put in into the according Temp folder.

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(38 replies, posted in Using SVP)

ithehappy wrote:

I mentioned my system spec in OP mate. Its a i7 950 CPU and Asus GTX970 GPU, with 8 gigs of RAM.

Oh gosh I feel like an idiot now, how the heck did I miss that?!  I get quite annoyed when I post things in the first post of a thread and people end up missing it, and I've made that very mistake!  sad

A million apologies, I am terribly sorry.

ithehappy wrote:

I very much know that this CPU is damn old, but that old that it can't handle SVP and madVR?

It's not old at all, just not recent.  I was running an Athlon 64 x2 4800+ as my main PC's CPU up until 6 months ago due to the mobo dying, and even now I'm only running a Pentium G3258.

Nevertheless, you have an Nvidia GPU, so try setting LAVfilter's decoder to "NVIDIA CUVID".

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(38 replies, posted in Using SVP)

So just to clarify, is it safe to assume you're using an AMD CPU with an AMD GPU?

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(38 replies, posted in Using SVP)

Maybe something wonky going on with the h.264 hardware decoding?  You could try a different decoder.

Using this guide for reference:
http://svp-team.com/wiki/SVP:MPC-HC

Instead of "DVXA2 (copy-back)" select one of the following...

  • "Intel QuickSync"if you have a recent Intel CPU (last 4 years)

  • "NVIDIA CUVID" if you have an Nvidia GPU that isn't 10 years old

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(14 replies, posted in Using SVP)

Chainik wrote:

4K in RGB will eat any 6-core i7.

Then get an 8-core i7. tongue

Or wait a year for Zen.

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(38 replies, posted in Using SVP)

I'm going to theorize that it's because the first video is 25fps and you're interpolating to 60hz.  Interpolating 25fps to 60hz should theoretically be more CPU-intensive than interpolating 24fps into 60hz.

There are two solutions to this.

1. Make separate profiles for 24fps, 25fps, and 30fps; you may even have to set 25fps to "1m (average mode)" for performance reasons.

2. With MadVR or MPC-HC, use the built-in resolution-changer to change your screen refreshrate to something that is a multiple of 25 (50hz, 75hz, 100hz, etc)

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(185 replies, posted in Using SVP)

Apologies for the double-post, but I just realized - you're testing in Windows Media Player?  WMP doesn't support replaygain, so how were you handling the volume difference for ABX-ing between AAC and Opus?  I mean, it's known that the human ear will treat sounds that are even the slightest bit louder as sounding better...


UPDATE: For example, your "Michel Teló" example has the AAC version being 0.03dB louder.

...or maybe I'm just being overly OCD?

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(185 replies, posted in Using SVP)

Mystery wrote:

Have you tried the Media Encoder? Any issues with it?

I will report my experiences with it when I actually try it - I still have not yet done so.

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(185 replies, posted in Using SVP)

BTW, I assume that 160kbps Opus is set to be the 2nd best quality in case that YouTube depreciates 256kbps AAC? (considering you apparently already have to do some fancy stuff just to retrieve it...)

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(185 replies, posted in Using SVP)

Ok, let me put it this way - SVPtube cannot open things in foobar2000 (I just tried).  I have to use foobar2000 for proper ABX-ing because my sound card's drivers do not support changing the output sampling rate on-the-fly unless it uses ASIO.


EDIT: Actually, SVPtube isn't opening things in even MPC-HC even though it just did 5 minutes ago when I initially tested it, and I even closed and re-opened SVPtube.  Needless to say, my CYS mod "just works" as long as it doesn't update (I can manually set it to not update in Pale Moon, but I want to see if my 5.6.26.1 version number fixes the auto-update issue).

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(185 replies, posted in Using SVP)

Does SVPtube support actual downloading and not just streaming?  For proper ABX-ing I need both AAC and Opus downloaded.


Mystery wrote:

The first 2 audios are pure electronic sounds with no background details so perhaps those are better encoded with Opus. For live recordings, however, it's more difficult to calculate the shape (Opus) and storing the pixelated details (AAC) still gives a richer sound.

By electronic, do you mean the equivalent of a direct recording, electronic as in synthesized, or do you mean electronic as in the actual genre?  If the latter, well, that's what happens when the majority of my test content (my own youtube "videos") don't have Opus encodings!

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(185 replies, posted in Using SVP)

See my update. tongue

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(185 replies, posted in Using SVP)

Again though, YouTube's AAC encoder is quite sub-par compared to non-open source encoders (like Nero AAC).

Also, regarding VLC and WMP, it's likely that WMP is using Wasapi so the 48khz is being played without resampling while in VLC it's being run through DirectSound so it's being resampled by Windows to whatever the "Default format" is set to in Control Panel -> Sound (commonly 44100hz).  Now consider that, on Windows 7, the resampling algorithm used is actually really crappy due to a bug and so there's a hotfix for it (alternatively setting 96000Hz seems to work around the issue).


Lastly, you're right about Opus being difficult to retrieve - I can't even get Opus now from that 32khz example I linked to! Update: Oh, it's because my Opus mod for CYS got over-ridden via auto-update by the current version.  Guess I should change the version number to 5.6.26.1 or something.

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(185 replies, posted in Using SVP)

Here you go, one 32KHz song coming right up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu9qC6pxIk0


Here's everything else I tested if you care (save for the 48KHz and higher stuff); note that everything other than the one MP3-sourced sound was sourced from, edited as, and uploaded with fully lossless audio:

22050Hz:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEGVzY_dtts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6pAOGDjJLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf43SMzTxbw


44100Hz:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZhCOn5FcUo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rso1MZz6UuU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rso1MZz6UuU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv1ilocUQs4 (160kbps MP3 source!)

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(17 replies, posted in Using SVP)

Chainik wrote:

ok, FX-x3xx  big_smile

But that would mean the 3.3GHz 8300 would perform identically to the 4.4GHz 9370. tongue

Also, if you're saying per-core, then technically an 83xx would be almost twice as fast because an Ivy Bridge i7 is a 4core/8thread CPU.

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(17 replies, posted in Using SVP)

8xxx?  That's impossible - that'd mean the 8120 would have identical performance to the 8350.

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(17 replies, posted in Using SVP)

FX _3__ CPUs are Piledriver, not Bulldozer.

Ok, technically Bulldozer can refer to its refined versions as well (like Steamroller and Excavator) but in this case I meant Zambezi.


Also, just saying i7 could mean anything from a 2-core/4-thread Westmere to an 8-core/16-thread Haswell-E.