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Why would you use svp when new tv's can do interpolation better ? And here are my 2 settings that work best for me.
1)Adaptive smooth settings
Adaptive
1-1.5-2
Standard
Disabled
One Pixel
24px
Global
Small and Fast
Disabled
Average
2)Max Smoothness for Me
Uniform
Standard
Disabled
One Pixel
28px
Global
Large
Strongest
Large
Both work great with anime. Movies tend to produce motion blur so no matter what you do they will produce artifacts
Blackfyre wrote:cemaydnlar wrote:When i set it to screen it started to look smooth as hell.
I did tell you to try that above 
but always feels better when you learn on your own haha
Sorry didn't see that part and thanks for your help 
Okey i found the problem it was x5 or any x setting. For me the only thing working is to screen. When i set it to screen it started to look smooth as hell.
Blackfyre wrote:cemaydnlar wrote:Is there something i can change to achieve the smoothest playback settings ?
Test this:
Change from 14px to 28px
Change the Average, Average, Average to Large, Strongest, Large.
Not much has changed still looks the same. Can you please explain what this changes did ?
My settings are like this;
Uniform
Standard
Disabled
One Pixel
14px
Local refinement
Average
Average
Average
Is there something i can change to achieve the smoothest playback settings ?
Blackfyre wrote:cemaydnlar wrote:Okey but with tweak i mean can i change something in override file to make it even smoother ?
What do you mean by tweaks? There's settings that allow you to tweak all variables of SVP in the SVP Control Panel. You're using the paid version of the program yes?
I mean a way other than normal options that leads to smoother playback ? Is something like that possible ? Yes i use the paid version.
Okey but with tweak i mean can i change something in override file to make it even smoother ?
Can i somehow tweak svp to make it even smoother ? Can i use x3 mode when my monitor is on 120hz or should i create a custom mode for 72hz which looks terrible when i do?
I asked because i thought maybe low usage may create more artifacts And i want to ask if there is a tweak which makes svp even smoother ?
No matter which setting i use i can't stress my cpu or gpu higher than %20. I don't have frame drops and everything seems okey but i am not sure if it is tough. Is there a way to stress them more ?
I watched hobbs and shawn. I had 2 dropped frames in the end of the movie. So i think there is nothing to worry about right ?
What is dropped frame output ? When i look for dropped frames in mpv it says Dropped Frame: 0(decoder) 2(output).
dlr5668 wrote:cemaydnlar wrote:dlr5668 wrote:SVP cant generate data out of thin air. There will always be artifacts. Your brain will adapt to it and enjoy smoothness
Can i get the smoothness that dain app gives with svp 4 ? I am using svp for years now but i neither get that smoothness of dain app nor do i get minimum artifacts as with dain app.
dain is at least 300 times slower than svp
Yes that's why i bought svp 4. But svp does not feel as dain app feels. I think what motion interpolation must look like is dain app. Correct me if i am wrong.
dlr5668 wrote:SVP cant generate data out of thin air. There will always be artifacts. Your brain will adapt to it and enjoy smoothness
Can i get the smoothness that dain app gives with svp 4 ? I am using svp for years now but i neither get that smoothness of dain app nor do i get minimum artifacts as with dain app.
dlr5668 wrote:cemaydnlar wrote:dlr5668 wrote:mpv settings have 0 effects on artifacts
14px grid is optimal for 1080p, start from there
enable x3 fps @ svp (assuming 24fps content, 144 screen)
I tried your settings but it produces those artifacts i posted before. My specs shouldn't be that bad i think. Because it says that ryzen 3 is enough for 1080p content right ?
Download converted scene, close svp and try it @ 144 hz
https://mega.nz/#!Hzp2yYxY!-G0wtJSIQfNJ … dCrNkHQVpQ
You can decrease artifacts further (and smoothness too). Ryzen is 3 is enough
I see artifacts around moving people in this video too.
dlr5668 wrote:mpv settings have 0 effects on artifacts
14px grid is optimal for 1080p, start from there
enable x3 fps @ svp (assuming 24fps content, 144 screen)
I tried your settings but it produces those artifacts i posted before. My specs shouldn't be that bad i think. Because it says that ryzen 3 is enough for 1080p content right ?
Blackfyre wrote:cemaydnlar wrote:I also use max smoothness settings.
Uniform
By blocks
Masking disabled
Half pixel
6px
Grid step disabled
Radius small and fast
Wide search disabled
Small
Repeat fram
Can you please try this settings and tell me if you get similar artifacts like mine ?
No I am not going to try those settings, of course I will get a lot of artifacts with those settings.
Motion vector grid 6px??? why?! Change it to like 28px, 14px is the lowest I would ever go.
Change SVP Shader to standard
YOU have masking disabled?! Of course you're going to get artifacts. Change it to strong masking.
USE my settings from the picture above for SVP. Use TO SCREEN for frame rate conversion. And change your MONITOR refresh rate from nVidia control panel to 50Hz (try it at 50Hz first!).
MPV Configuration, try these settings, my latest, I removed some stuff because your GPU is not powerful enough:
ontop
audio-exclusive=yes
video-sync=display-resample
vulkan-swap-mode=fifo
video-latency-hacks=no
demuxer-thread=yes
vo=gpu
profile=gpu-hq
fbo-format=rgba16hf
gpu-api=vulkan
gpu-context=winvk
hwdec=nvdec
spirv-compiler=shaderc
vd-lavc-dr=yes
vulkan-async-transfer
vulkan-async-compute
vulkan-swap-mode=fifo
volume-max=100
tone-mapping=hable
hdr-compute-peak=yes
dither-depth=N
dither=fruit
dither-size-fruit=2
scale=ewa_lanczossharp
cscale=ewa_lanczossharp
dscale=ewa_lanczossharp
dither-depth=auto
correct-downscaling=yes
sigmoid-upscaling=yes
sws-allow-zimg=no
zimg-fast=no
ytdl-format=best
I changed my settings as you said and copied those things you wrote to mpv.conf file. Artifacts reduced bu now i don't see any different when it comes to smoothness. It feels like i am watching it without svp.
Blackfyre wrote:No way, that's too many artifacts. No I do not get anywhere near that. Maybe in a few scenes in a movie, I get a few artifacts, but nowhere near this bad where you can't even tell what you're looking at from how many artifacts there are all over the place, and majority of the movies I don't even notice any artifacts. Are you sure you have the PAID version and everything updated?
What media player are you using?
I get this kind of artifacts only in fast scenes. Yes i am using the paid version of svp 4 and i am using mpv player. So this is my problem when objects or people start moving i get these artifacts.
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L4
Format settings : CABAC / 3 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames : 3 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1 h 14 min
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 7 500 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 11.2 Mb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 24.000 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.151
Stream size : 3.83 GiB (85%)
Writing library : x264 core 148 r2717 0d2410d
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x1:0x111 / me=umh / subme=10 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=24 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / stitchable=1 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=2 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=0 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=48 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=7500 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.50 / qpmin=6 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=11250 / vbv_bufsize=15000 / nal_hrd=vbr / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Default : Yes
Forced : No
These are the media infos of what i was watching.
I also use max smoothness settings.
Uniform
By blocks
Masking disabled
Half pixel
6px
Grid step disabled
Radius small and fast
Wide search disabled
Small
Repeat fram
Can you please try this settings and tell me if you get similar artifacts like mine ?
Blackfyre wrote:cemaydnlar wrote:Can you guys tell me which settings decrease the artifacts around moving objects or fast scenes. Is it possible to take those artifacts to a minimum amount without losing smoothness ?
You will lose some smoothness if you want to decrease artifacts. Personally I don't mind losing a little bit of smoothness, as long as there's very little artifacts.
What CPU and GPU do you have? Not sure if my settings will work on your PC, but I linked them below.
I have a 4790K @ 4.6Ghz and a GTX 1070.
https://i.imgur.com/xvcZR7K.png
I have: Ryzen 5 3600x
Geforce gtx 970 oc edition
and i also have a 144hz monitor. The reason i am telling this is because i had a lot of issue a couple of months ago and we couldn't solve those artifact problems. Now i decided to try it again and maybe learn if there is a way to get the best possible settings for me.
BTW this is the artifacts i get when objects or people start moving https://i.imgur.com/UGTSQe9.jpg
I tried masking with strong nothing changed. I tried 3x or 4x nothing changed. I tried adaptive still nothing changed. I tried everything possible and couldn't get results. Do you also get these artifacts that i get ?
Can you guys tell me which settings decrease the artifacts around moving objects or fast scenes. Is it possible to take those artifacts to a minimum amount without losing smoothness ?
MAG79 wrote:cemaydnlar
Check if your screen displays all frames without jerks.
Use moving orange tearing test line to detect jerks: SVP menu - Unitilies - Fluency and tearing test.
It is important to see every frame without dropped frames and jerks.
Artifacts become more noticiable when jerks are present in video.
Everything seems to be fine.
Okey so i tried svp with my new monitor guess what happened. Nothing changed at all it still has the same artifacts with 144hz mode;
frame interpolation: uniform
SVP shader: 10. by blocks
artifacts masking: disabled
motion vectors precision: one pixel (or half pixel)
motion vectors grid: 14 px
decrese grid step: disabled
search radius: small and fast (or small)
wide search: disabled
width of coarse top level: small
processing of scene changes: blend adjacent frames
I used these settings.
With your settings everything seems ok except smoothness. Actually when i change my settings to max smoothness i still see just a small amount of smoothness which makes your settings more reasonable.
dlr5668 wrote:How can you use svp if you cant play 4k videos ? 
My samples are already interpolated and your config
>ryzen 5 2600 and gtx 970
is good enough for playing 4k without svp
It’s not because of my pc. It is because of my bad tv.
dlr5668 wrote:cemaydnlar wrote:See you also have those bad artifacts in ball game scene. No matter what you do this is the maximum you will get out of svp i guess.
Sure they are always be there. We just need to minimize it 
Uploaded 72 fps as well. Thats my go to profile
The resolution of your videos are very high they play very slow on my pc. I don't understand if the video is smooth i only see artifacts can you do something about it xD
dlr5668 wrote:cemaydnlar wrote:dlr5668 wrote:Just watch it and compare. Better source quality provides better SVP interpolation
I did. The video you sent plays in slow motion which is because my monitor doesn't support it. So why should i download 2k videos when my monitor doesn't support it. Ahh nvm. I'm not curious anymore. I ordered a monitor with full hd and 144hz support. Will try svp with it when it works it works when not then it means svp is just a bad app.
I uploaded second one (24 fps -> 60 fps). Non integral multiplier looks much crappier though (more artifacts)
https://mega.nz/#F!OyQ1EYBI!kLyVrQJiwC-FAmNw2LqUKA
https://youtu.be/3P9ODc7QQtQ (processing)
We can continue discussion once you get new toy (144 / 24 = 6 so its perfect for video) and watch these 2 samples without svp
See you also have those bad artifacts in ball game scene. No matter what you do this is the maximum you will get out of svp i guess.
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