Hi all, thanks SVP Team for the SVP 3.1.1 , i will test it later and see how it going for me smile, i hope i can use it better, im still using the 3.0.6 that is stable for my system till now.

Greetings.

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MAG79
Hey MAG, how you been man? okey thanks good to know that sad now im sad haha all of you are enjoying this and i dont sad. My performance is not so good for me, cant do anything  because i got that message problem from SVP and it deactivated then i have to close the player and svp and try it again :S. Im using Nvidia Drivers 295.73

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This is good more smooth but, in my case im having problems, when i change some settings sometimes or just jump to any second or minutes of X movie i got this error from SVP: SVSmoothFps: unable to init FlowLib [code 0x3fffb] etc. I have more cpu usage than before with 1080p and sometimes i cant play them sad ( something that i fixed before with previous version ) , but this is still very good, i hope i can figure out how to make this work on my system.

Greetings.

Thanks to SVP Team for the release of SVP 3.1 big_smile, i was waiting for this to test and complete my guide. I hope you all the best. I was ultra mega busy, you wont believe me XD, i was watching a lot of old movies and animes with SVP all this time and some game got my atention too, sorry, now is time to take back this smile.

Itchywolf
Hi my friend, how you been? big_smile i hope like me enjoying watching a lot of things big_smile XD thanks to SVP.
Naa its ok man, we re here to learn, and this Team is here to help us, so dont worry.
Wait till i finish my guide, then you will see new things.

Greetings.

Maken

krneki
Hey, there is somethings that you re not doing well man.
1- In PotPlayers OSDs it need to show you in Input and Output: YV12 , YV12 gives the best performance than the others, in your case you need more performance than high quality, in this case YV12 is Performance / Quality and RGB32 or YUY2 are good too but it need more Power.
2- You should see the differences man, in especial with fast escenes or objects when the camera moving arrounds, i mean less artifacts with moderate smoothness. The other id gave you was taking your off more smooth and give more artifacts in exchange of PERFORMANCE. The new one id gave you, is intermediate, a little bit more smooth with less artifacts in exchange of more CPU usage, to safe that extra CPU usage, use YV12 as Output in Potplayer if you dont use Lav Filters ( but i recommend you use Lav Filters ) so disable in PotPlayer " Built-in video processing filter ", use Lav Video Decoder and just enable YV12 only, in the 10bit section leave it as default ( all of this in Lav Filters Properties ).

Sorry, i was very busy with somethings, got distracted thanks to SVP -_- ( smile big_smile ), thanks to my new tweaks and High Quality ( uncoming ), i was watching a lot of animes, old movies, etc smoothy time!!! big_smile. No really sorry if im taking much for complete the guide, i play games and i was kinda busy with that too, im waiting for new version of SVP.

I hope this week be with more free time to complete this. Greetings to all good ppls here smile.

Regards.

Maken

krneki
hahahha nice big_smile thats much better ah? i guess you can notice the differences now, i mean see it more smoother than before, right ?

in SVPs icon, make sure that " Tearing test " and " Demostration mode " are unchecked, maybe by acident you pressed it.

Try to use now the Lav Splitters and leave Lav Video Decoder, you need better Cuda performance that it can provide you and if you want more quality or you use madVR or enable " High-Quality Processing " in Lav Video Decoder, this will cost you more GPU performance big_smile but more quality. Try it if you want and if it does not affect you much performance then leave it enable. I just recommend it for better GPUs but you will not lose anything trying smile.

krneki
Thats better man, leave it, leave Lav Filters with Cuda enable.

Other recommendations:

1- When playback HD Movies with DTS or high bitrate, try to dont leave any app or whatever that you know that its consuming a lot of your CPU resourses, i mean if you leave your Windows in IDLE without do nohitng!!! and your CPU usage is like +10/15% for example then, thats bad!!!, its a waste so you have to save all the resourses you can at the time of use SVP + PotPlayer + Movie-DTS-High Bitrate or more than 23.976 fps ( 24 fps or more consume more CPU ).
2- Ok now try this with your SVP Profile and see what happen:

In this ORDER:
1- NORMAL
2- 13. Standard
3- Double the frame rate (2x)
4- FULL SIZE
5- 1 PIXEL
6- HEXAGON
7- TO PIXEL
8- DO NOT RECALCULATE
9- 32x32
10- NO OVERLAP
11- NORMAL
12- NORMAL
13- FRAME BLENDING
14- DO NOT REDUCE
15- Dont enable it.

Good Luck

krneki
Hey, how r u? smile
haha nice, ok can you tell me what you did ?  What did you changed on PotPlayer? are you using Lav Filters?
I guess that the Auto Selection on PotPlayers Renderer, is EVR CP, because its the best in performance, you can check it out While you re playing X video, trailer, etc. Press Tab and the PotPlayers OSD will appear.
Try to set in Renderer " EVR CP " and use LavFilters ( copying the settings from the Performance Section only ) and Enable Cuda, i think if you take some advantage of your mobile graphics, it could give you more performane, lower you CPU usage some..if you can do that or if that happen we can try another settings for your SVPs Profiles smile.

Good Luck, i wait your answer, take care.

Itchywolf
Hey man, how you been? big_smile
Disable FULLSCREEN Exclusive mode on the MADVR, you dont need that, its for XPs user or for performance, i personaly dont use it and no more problems like you when i try to go to fullscreen.
Lav Filter v0.48 ? ohh i need to download, install and test. Thanks.
Its just Lav Filters, PotPlayer that alows you use CUDA and reduce more your CPU usage, if you combine Lav Filters + it CUDA enable and MadVR ( another GPU advantage ) then more CPU performance you will get, this is good for your SVPs profile, i mean more CPUs resouses free so more settings you can try on your SVPs Profile. In my case thanks to Lav Filters with Cuda enable and MadVR, im able to play my content good big_smile and save a lot my CPU Resourses ( CPU resourses that i use later trying more settings on my SVPS Profiles for better smoothing ). IF i dont use them, is hard later to use my SVPs Profiles sad. SVP uses OpenCL so if you have good GPU is necessary use it for better results. SVPs OpenCL enable + MadVR with high settings, can be or is GPU killer, so if you and anyone dont have a powerfull GPUs like Nvidia 500 series, then better use Bicubic or Bilineal on Madvr to free a lot of GPUs usage and give more Prior or Resourses to SVPs at the time of smoothing and use Xs settings on your profile that depends more of GPU.
Naaa you can ask man no problems smile thats why we re here, to ask and learn XD.

MAG79
Hey MAG79, kak dela ?
Thanks good to know big_smile and for help.

Hey krneki, you heared the boos big_smile, try those drivers, then tell us your results.

krneki
Hi , no problem big_smile

oh i see man, its your laptop man, cpu too slow to use with SVP and... hmm wait try this:

1- Update your graphics drivers.
2- Do FORMANCE / NORMAL QUALITY settings, from step 1 till step 5 and finally 7 ( i mean ignore step 6 dont use madVR for now).
3- Playback any trailer, movie, etc in 720p because your laptop is unable to handle 1080p + SVP and see your cpu usage and try to remember it.
4- Try SVP and do this settings manualy:

In this ORDER:
1- NORMAL
2- SIMPLE
3- 24 ->60 2m (1.5x)
4- FULL SIZE
5- 1 PIXEL
6- HEXAGON
7- TO PIXEL
8- DO NOT RECALCULATE
9- 32x32
10- NO OVERLAP
11- NORMAL
12- NORMAL
13- FRAME BLENDING
14- DO NOT REDUCE
15- Dont enable it.

5- Now see and compare Results. If you re better you can try to use Lav Filters and enable CUDA, if you do that compare results with previous.

Chainik
Hey thanks, i did it and it work and now i found the way in my case of course, how to play 1080p 29.97 using for example SVP-shader: 13. Standard and it cost me 80/90% of my CPU. Later i will show you some pics.

Mak.

krneki
Hi Krneki, how are you?

Ok yeah maybe something is missing there..
Can you provide me more info about:
1- your PC specs ?
2- Are you using SVP ? What settings?
3- Play that video, movie, trailer or etc, pause it, press Crtl + F1 ( so see the movies info ) copy it and paste here.

In my guide there is 2 sections, one call Performance and other call Quality. You have to fallow one of these two depending of your pcs performance. Even if you want the Quality, you have to fallow all steps from Performance, then continue with the rest that are in Quality ( that are just some changes in the most important parts ).

Thanks and i wait for your answer soon smile.

MAG79
hmm okey okey. Sadly i cant smooth 1080p 29.97 like i want, only 720p  ( some wmv 720p trailers ). This year i hope got my new pc, then lets see smile.

Rimsky
Hi Rimsky, how you been? Thanks to you man smile, its no complete yet the guide, working on it...
Ohh i see, well i dont use Creative Alchemy to enhanced audio quality.. its not installed, if i want to enhanced audio quality i use modded drivers with modded Console Launcher that containts tweaks, etc. then i do my part as well with other things.

The PotPlayer that im using right now is v1.5.31934 beta.

I found this old HD Demo of Samsung , its extreme, just look it info ( attachment file ), it can make suffer any old pc, now i can play it with svp only if i use To screen refresh rate / 2. My pc cant handle more with this kind of monster video.
http://img.overpic.net/thumbs/o/a/k/xoakxk5btw69hd0sewwb4_t.jpg

About this, i found the way to play fullhd 60 fps video ( without SVP ) from hd cams for examples, something that before was imposible with any popular players, the only one who did it was Windows Media Player, now i just have to change one settings on my guide anytime i want to play this kind of file and thats all, it work very good and no framedrops.

Before
http://img.overpic.net/thumbs/h/m/9/xhm9q9110x27awpb0aohg_t.jpg
it was not 6 fps as fraps is showing, no no no, it was like 27 fps or something, after one second i got audio and video desyncro and of course not using SVP.

After
http://img.overpic.net/thumbs/m/s/o/xmso9glkemfo8k6mlvjs_t.jpg
Full smooth, 60 fps all the time, no more freamedrops.

Ok gentlemen if you want try the new Lav Filters v0.47, its good,  more performance than 46.
I was trying the new Nvidia drivers 295.73 and it was better than 285.xx serie. Good because it comes with new updates for SLI so better for me. For those ones that are fallowing my guide ( thanks! ), unistall Lav Filters v0.46, download and install v0.47 and if you have Nvidia GeForce video card then install these drivers.
About High Quality, its still W.I.P and im having good results in my case and about the Profiles im working on it, i cant say my new experiencies with SVP ( dont know how to explain ) , im more happy than before, less artifacts and more smoothy!.

Greetings to all.

Itchywolf
Hey Itchywolf, how are you man? smile no no no Thanks to you too big_smile im really happy man that this worked at least for someone, i was wondering all the time if this only work for me. I remember old times when i saw for first time this kind of smoothing on videos, etc from ppls that was using their fav player + ffdshow + Avisynth + tons of caracters or codecs on their Avisynth scripst just to make smooth one kind of video XD, then do the long process with other kind of video i mean in resolution, frames, etc. I was like omg im F.....! because their cpus was quad cores, etc and my poor system even was overclocked. I found one program call Splash Pro, it was great because it support Cuda and i was able to playback 720p but almost all my movies are in 1080p then i thought i want smooth my 1080p big_smile but my system was so slow to can handle it even with Splash Pro. If i try using Avisynth scripts with XXX player ( the most popular as we all know is MPC ) the result is the same, high cpu usage, framedrops and artifacts.
Once my pc was overclocked well and with it new boost, i deicided to search more about this " Interpolating or framedoubling ", then one day it took me to one forum and there was some ppls talking about SVP, like hey did you tried SVPs man, its more easier, give you better performance, not too much problems doing and messing with tons of Scripst to test and create and bla bla bla, then i said ok lets find more about it big_smile " Google time!!! come on ", open google, write framedoubling or interpolating with SVP or something i dont remember much now, then buuuaallaa, found this and im here, trying to learn more about this to make it all good as i can for my actual system. Im still like the Film effect on movies, for me smooth is good for games but for movies not that much but now i love it XD, ok not so ultra smooth and not soo ultra film, middle smile.

Once Nvidia released the 280 series..baa no more EVR CP for me, then i found madVR that saved my life and till now is my best choise, ok you need powerful GPUS to can use the best there for the best Quality but by default it give you good quality, not much need of use some pixel shaders to make your image much better but with the cost of performance los. Btw i recommend you if you want use 1 or 2 like max pixels in Search Radius, more you use there more CPU usage you get and for me 1 pixel is best, more than that create for me somekind of artifacts on edges or something.

You said " My SVP-index tends to fluctuate between .99 and 1.04... Is that normal? " . Yes its normal i guess, it happen the same for me and i think is better, lower values would be not good XD, when i say lower something like .05 :S then there is SVPs OSD warning you with low performance and thats something that without it, you will notice easy ( audio and vid desync, framedrops and more!! ).

Again Thanks to you and yeah BIG THANKS TO ALL SVP TEAM that saved our time, life and our experiencie at the time of MOVIE TIME!!!!!! big_smile. Im watching old movies, animes, documentals, etc again because my new performance With this big_smile. BTW i will post my SVPs custom profiles, so you can try them later and see if you like, i was doing this before, its just that i deicided to create this guide first, then the profiles later to complete all or to see if the experiencie that i got with this would be the same for others, because some results in my case are like Abnormal or maybe not much posible ? idk.

Greetings from Venezuela.

Chainik
Thanks man good to know smile.

Ok i was testing MPC HC and it was the same Chainik, thats why i will keep madVR all the time.

Chainik
Ok yeah, more with the fact that you need a powerful GPU if you want to use the best for the highes image quality. But because i said, that problem since Nvidia released those drivers, all changed to bad for me, i cant use EVR CP anymore without have those insane Gpus usages and in especial with your SVP. I discovered that madVR can help me with my problem, then thanks to it, i can use SVP again and much better than before.

Btw i want to comment you something apart of EVR CP, in the past before i discovered your SVP, i remember got artifacts in some parts of X video or movie, always i playback that part then was some kind of artifact in X part of the picture, then if i use for example PowerDVD v.XXXXXX with that video or movie and playback again just that part then NO ARTIFACTS. I forget to say that it was with KMPlayer, if i change the Video Renderer for example to VMR 9 Renderless or madVR then no more artifacts in that part, thats why i stopped to use EVR CP since i have this PC.

Chainik
hahah come on man, sorry if i dont understand you much like you want, remember im not a pro on this like you, thats why im here to learn and asking smile. I just wonder if i use EVR CP then one of these got enable by default? i mean without if i go to Video, etc etc then tick one of these Pixel Shaders?. Then you say that with madVR, the potplayers pixel shaders not work and i understand that part.

Look before find this website and your amazing program, i was always using EVR CP by Renderer + CoreAVC + PotPlayer of course and old and good ones Nvidia Drivers ( drivers that you SVP Team are recommending and showing to us with true Graphics their performance comparison ). My Cpu and Gpus usage was very low, but ONCE NVIDIA release the those drivers that screwed up the OpenCL right? and then once i discovered your SVP and started to use it with PotPlayer + EVR CP by Renderer + lastest Nvidia Drivers all change to that. If i rollback to one of the Nvidia drivers recommended by you SVP Team, then i can use EVR CP + SVP + etc but i cant do that because i play games, i have this SLI, old drivers dont have the update SLI Profiles for the new games then my performance with them are very poor.   I hope you understand me now.

" Lets just admit that for extremely overclocked Core2Duo + two low-end video cards in SLI madVR is the best choice smile " haha and you forget to say + lastest Nvidia Drivers sad lol.

Chainik
YEs Chainik it was and its same like in your image with me. I never use something from that part even when i was using in the past KMPlayer and now with PotPlayer is the same.

Chainik
Ok what you need me to show you on X part if is what you re saying is in use or no ?

Btw i want to comment you something apart of EVR CP, in the past before i discovered your SVP, i remember got artifacts in some parts of X video or movie, always i playback that part then was some kind of artifact in X part of the picture, then if i use for example PowerDVD v.XXXXXX with that video or movie and playback again just that part then NO ARTIFACTS. I forget to say that it was with KMPlayer, if i change the Video Renderer for example to VMR 9 Renderless or madVR then no more artifacts in that part, thats why i stopped to use EVR CP since i have this PC.