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As I've said, only when SVP is active - disable it and there's no tint. And it's not present on my older non-4K TV. The blue tint is very subtle - when there's no movement there's no tint. Aesthetically, it's not pleasant at all.
Photo: SVP active - movement of hands has the blue tint.
Samsung TV: in an HDMI connection B&W video has a blue tint around everything, which noticeable on moving images, despite adjusting TVs colour temperature and opting for 'greyscale'. It's not an issue watching B&W with a TV signal, nor is it a problem with my older Samsung TV which has no issues with SVP. It's only when SVP is active (on this 4K TV) that the problem presents itself.
Is there anything I can do to get rid of it?
Typical. I usually get this shit after Android app updates. But this isn't Android, so I thought... Hey, why not update SVP? So I did, and it's fucked up. Instead of spending the whole fucking day trying figure out what's wrong (spent the past hour looking at codecs and the like), I'll say bollocks to your updates and restore the computer to an earlier time when SPV worked perfectly.
Should've abided by my golden rule: IF IT'S NOT BROKE DON'T BREAK IT BY UPDATING.
So, firstly you need to reinstall NVIDIA drivers. With clean install options.
I already mentioned that I used DDU - several times in the process of reinstalling the current Nvidia driver and then the latest version – clean installs every time.
Having updated/reinstalled everything without success I turned my attention to Whirligig, as I never have this problem with MPC-BE. I installed an older version of Whirligig, played around with it, constantly opening the programme and loading videos for the last 24 hours, and there hasn’t been a single instance of this so-called Nvidia problem to date. To make sure, I reinstalled later versions of Whirligig and the “Unable to init…” was back. Went through the same process of installing the older version and the issue disappears, hopefully for good.
So as far as I’m concerned it’s a Whirligig problem. I’ll drop a line to the developer.
I don't know what changed. It doesn't happen every time I open Whirligig, about 80% of the time.
What takes two minutes for initialisation?
What is the actual problem? Is it a problem with Nvidia, Avisynth, SVP?
What the error you get now?
We need full text of the error with error number.
Or you can send us SVP logs, it will be better: SVP menu - Information - Send problem report....
I'd been using SVP in Whirligig for a couple of years without this problem.
Log attached.
This problem is in Whirligig. MPC is fine. Your suggestion of using Driver Display Uninstaller doesn’t resolve the issue. After reinstalling Nvidia the same “Unable to initiate GPU-based renderer…” error appears. CCleaner didn’t fix it, neither did reinstalling SVP nor updating Whirligig.
So is it possible to make this damn problem go away?
cast.encode.realtime = false... no difference.
frc.target.mpv_cfr = true... unable to open the stream page (clicking on the offending video in Root does nothing).
I'm not going to obsess about this. The main thing is that I can once again use SVPcast, if not streaming everything then most videos.
Updated nvidia and now streaming. Thank you.
Some videos (including 'alice and the white hair' in logs) are "waiting for the stream" for a few seconds then reverts back to the root page. That specific video streamed without problems when using SVPcast six months ago.
new coder attached
Read from 20.57. Still "waiting for the stream" btw.
I've a connection on my phone, but no video will play (last time I used it about six months ago it was fine). I updated SVPcast and now whenever I click on ''Stream' for any video it's continually "waiting for the stream"
Black bars detection has always been disabled, but your point about stopping playback and rewind to start is absolutely true. Simply pausing playback and restarting doesn't work - stopping and rewinding to the beginning is the only way to get it working properly.
Occasionally SVP kicks in and does what it’s supposed to do, but more often than not it plays incorrectly.
I've encoded some Apollo 11 footage requiring framerates to be as low as 5fps in order to get real time. Playback is fine without SVP, but as soon as it's active the playback stutters with constant stop-start. Same with HC and BE versions of MPC, WMP, and using SVP in a VR player. So it's definitely an issue with SVP. I've no problem with SVP in general - all other videos play well in 'normal' framerates.
Putting VOBs through AVIdemux and choosing AVI output solves the problem. MKV is the problem as far as converting VOB to MKV. MKVToolNix merely regurgitates VOBs as 50fps which is no good, and MKV output via AVIdemux and MakeMKV keeps the original framerate but are still VOBs by another name and unsupported by SVP.
I don't really like AVI, mainly for historical reasons (atrocious encoding with xvid). But using AVI as container in AVIdemux is fine because the VOBs are not re-encoded.
I use MX Player. Tried various encoders/bandwidth - Nvidia H264 gives best results, but playback is still very unsatisfactory with audio cutouts, jerky video and stop/start.
My laptop is an 1070 ROG, btw.
I mean the video breaks up... constant stuttering... loss of audio... stops and starts. Fine with low bitrate/resolution, but useless streaming HD video.
you can stream it with SVPcast
Not good at all. Creates artefacts with the usual intermittent stop/start, which defeats the whole purpose of smooth motion. Maybe it'll be different in the VR headset.
With the release of Oculus Go imminent I'm wondering if there's an equivalent of SVP on Android, or if SVP can run on Android. Currently I use the Rift with Whirligig which incorporates SVP, and it's an essential part of enjoying video - the bigger the screen the greater the perception of motion blur/stutter, so getting rid of it is key.
I'd like to have standalone VR mainly for viewing video... but without SVP? I don't know.
Uninstalled K-lite - AVI working. SVP not working.
installed Codec tweak tool, LAV filters and 32bit ffdshow - AVI working, SVP not working.
Installed 64bit ffdshow - AVI not working, SVP working.
I think it's an issue with 64bit ffdshow and DirectShow (video path in Whirligig). The two other paths,
Video LAN and Media Foundation, aren't compatible with SVP yet they play AVI just fine.
AVI/SVP playback is alright with MPC, and it was working with Whirligig until recently. I've been fiddling about with DirectShow filters, but I'm stumped.
Originally Whirligig and SVP were fine, no problems. Then I had a problem with Whirligig not playing AVI and I could only fix it by reinstalling K-lite, but that resulted in SVP not working in Whirligig, although there were no issues in MPC.
Obviously I did the relevant tweaking: https://www.svp-team.com/wiki/SVP:Whirligig
No instances of Whirligig in event log. Reinstalled SVP, no difference.
The only way to get SVP working in Whirligig again is through system restore... but that'll take me back to the AVI nonsense.
Brilliant smooth motion, but this halo or shimmering whenever there's fast motion makes everything unwatchable - it's a terrible side-effect of what is a wonderful, liquid, almost 3D image.
I have SVP4 free. I tried SVP3 after reading that this effect it's not so bad... but typically (using SVP3) the ffdshow raw video filter doesn't appear in MPC 32bit while video is playing, in spite of it being added to external filters, yet it IS recognised in MPC 64bit only 64bit is not supported!
So I'm pretty disappointed - and annoyed - that such a potentially great addition, as SVP4 seems to be, is, in reality, totally useless. Unless you're myopic and don't notice it.
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