Ok, thank you for all the help MAG.

I appreciate it.

I do have one final question: How can I verify that DXVA is working? With the built in decoder it says "DXVA" but with LAV it doesn't, and even if I disable DXVA I still get 60FPS and high GPU load.

Is there some DXVA indication anywhere?

OK, now I'm really confused.

I changed it like you said, disabled YV12 and NV12 in LAV Video Decoder:

http://image.prntscr.com/image/005679e4a4b54aa5a31389fc8ac2ef1a.png

And now, the input is suddenly YUY2, and output is still NV12:

http://image.prntscr.com/image/7d4e52f5093e4ee88333ef9b7d5e1bb0.png

This stuff is really confusing...

Thanks for the explanation, but something doesn't make sense:

1. With built in FFMPeg & DXVA Copy Back:

http://image.prntscr.com/image/16977e23d84245d684169cbb3db49887.png

Input is AVC1 12 bit, Output is YUY2 16 bit. ffdshow shows input and output as YUY2

2. With LAV Video Decoder & Native DXVA:

http://image.prntscr.com/image/de75fadee88040feb3b199fe645333fc.png

Input is NV12 12 bit, Output is NV12 12 bit. ffdshow shows input as YV12 and output as NV12.

Why is that, shouldn't the input be the same? How can I force YUY2 output on LAV Decoder?

You said YUY2 has a better color resolution, I'd like to make sure I get the best output quality.

Thanks

Source is YUY2... the question is if there's a quality difference between YUY2 and NV12?

Also is there a big diff between native DXVA and Copy Back DXVA? I just want to know if I should use the built in FFmpwg decoder or LAV for DXVA.

Thx

OK I can get it to work if I do this:

http://image.prntscr.com/image/6bb90ec74b5248649d2b43a54ef1b5bb.png

http://image.prntscr.com/image/b4c45ee6b3bb43b5b915c1ce7c3a55ae.png

Result:

http://image.prntscr.com/image/166bc14892514b8289b576bb4d095658.png

I know DXVA is working because the FPS is higher and smoother and I also see the GPU load is higher.

But my question is about the output, with the built in decoder I get a YUY2 16 bit output, and with LAV I get 12bit NV12, is there a big difference? Can I force YUY2 on LAV?

Also, what is ffdshow being used for? I still don't understand why I need both LAV Video and ffdshow AND madVR.

Thanks

So is madVR not a DXVA renderer?

OK, it seems to work when I enable DXVA Copy Back mode:

http://image.prntscr.com/image/c24733bc91cc4ce9b901df5d4fed9769.png

But I can't get it to work in Native mode... What gives? I tried setting LAV Video Decoder and selecting Native DXVA, but it only says "LAV Video Decoder" in the Video Decoder, nothing about DXVA, although I do see that the GPU load is higher when it's used.

Should I try a different version of PotPlayer maybe?

Also, can you please explain the difference between the video decoder and video filter? What is the Video Decoder used for, and what is FFDSHOW used for?

Thanks

How is DXVA not used if my GPU load is 57%?

These are my settings again:
http://image.prntscr.com/image/673e36ed5ded41b0825102b1c953df08.png

What should I change to ensure DXVA is working?

This is what I'm getting:

http://image.prntscr.com/image/aee7bae44ef7458f9219eac5dbe0ba35.png

It's using the build in FFMpeg decoder, and using DXVA. If you can only use either DXVA or CUDA, then why would the guide tell you to enable DXVA and set CUDA as the decoder?

BTW why does it say ExtPCM under the Audio Decoder output? I'm using WASAPI Excusive mode and it's bitstreaming:

http://image.prntscr.com/image/4d839c66683442c6ac5e5cf3d79fd4d8.png

Anyway, I tried disabling DXVA, and selecting CUDA as the decoder, it still freezes...

Is using DXVA the same as using CUDA Decoder? I'm not sure because this PotPlayer guide I read says to enable both:

https://wiki.mikejung.biz/PotPlayer

To edit PotPlayers's Video Decoder settings for optimized performance, go to Filter Control, under the expanded options on the left side, click on Video Decoder, then click on Built-in Codec/DXVA Settings. Since I have a GTX 970, I selected CUDA for most video types, and I selected DXVA to be used. Do not select DXVA Copy-Back as it is the slowest Video Decoder. DXVA (Native) is usually the option to go with and it's the default if you enable it in potplayer (it's just called DXVA), for mpc-hc it would be called DXVA2 (Native). To be honest, I'm not entirely sure if DXVA matters if you already selected CUDA for PotPlayer's decoder options, when I play back a video and view the player stats I see that the OpenCodec CUDA decoder is used for video, which is what most people with a high end, Nvidia GPU should use. I also suggest doing with hardware deinterlacing and letting your GTX card handle this instead of enabling it in

https://wiki.mikejung.biz/images/6/6e/PotPlayer_Configuration_Built-in_Video_Decoder_CUDA.png

My setup:

i5 2500K
GTX680
8GB DDR3-1600 RAM

Using PotPlayer 1.6.63856

My PotPlayer is configured according to Maken's guide, with ffdshow, LAV Audio/Video Decoder, ReClock and madVR with DXVA as the video renderer. I'm no longer using SVP because my Sony TV has great smooth motion processing and madVR has smooth motion as well, the combination of the 2 is good enough for me without the performance hit of SVP.

Up until now I was using the Built-in FFMpeg decoder for all video formats, but I recently read that I should use the NVIDIA CUDA decoder for better hardware performance, and also to utilize the NVIDIA Edge Enhancement and Noise Reduction features in the NVIDIA control panel.

My issue: When I choose NVIDIA CUDA in the video decoder and play an MKV movie, the player will launch, an image will appear and then freeze. The sound keeps playing as normal but the player is stuck and I have to end the process in Windows.

My settings:

http://image.prntscr.com/image/556ba116dc49428da50314edd954b1fd.png

Marked in Red is where I changed to NVIDIA CUDA:

http://image.prntscr.com/image/673e36ed5ded41b0825102b1c953df08.png

P.S.
Am I to get a performance boost, or better image quality by using the CUDA decoder?

Thx

Hi Maken,

I am about to lose my mind!

Today I did a fresh clean install of PotPlayer and all the needed apps, I wanted to re-setup SVP.

I did everything according to your guide (Win 10 + GTX680) and I am not able to get DTS passthrough! It never worked with LAV, so I always used the default, but now after the new install I cannot get it to work with the built in codec as well. If I set my Audio Renderer to Reclock + LAV I am getting picture but no sound, and if I set renderer to Reclock with the built in audio filter with passthrough enabled, the movie doesn't even play. I tried default/alternative/FFMpeg SPDIF muxer and nothing works.

The only way I can get full DTS/DTS-HD passthrough with LAV or with the built in codec is by using the default WASAPI Audio Renderer. Any other renderer I select doesn't pass through the audio.

Are there any ReClock settings we need to set? I'm losing my mind... I can't get it to work with DirectSound or WaveOut as well, which is really weird, because they worked perfectly fine before I did the new installation.

Am I missing out on something by not using ReClock? Is it ok to leave it on the default WASAPI renderer?

Help please!

EDIT

Made some progress, I uninstalled the NVIDIA drivers, ran driver sweeper and reinstalled, I can now get passthrough with both LAV and built in codec using any Audio Renderer. However, I am unable to set WASAPI exclusive mode! Before when I was playing a movie, if I turned down the Windows volume it would not affect the receiver sound, but now it does and it's driving me crazy. I have changed no settings before, just installed and it was working perfectly. I must have uninstalled and reinstalled PotPlayer 10 times, tried to use built in WASAPI renderer and set it to Exclusive mode, but I am still not getting it. Help!

Hey guys,

My SVP Pro was set up with my PC for a long time on 1080p. Today I got a brand new receiver which passes through 4K and I set my PC resolution to 4K (3840x2160 @60Hz)

I tried to play a video, but PotPlayer crashes 4 out of 5 times, when it doesn't, the playback I'm getting is not a smooth 60fps, this is with 1080p movies, not even 4K.

What should I do? Are there any specific settings or profile I should create when using SVP Pro with a PC @ 4K? Using a GTX680 and i5 2500K OCed to 4.5GHz

Thanks

Thanks for the reply, I noticed that the 80% usage is only in movies with a full 1920x1080 resolution. In most 1920x800 movies (which is the majority) the usage sits at about 60%.

I bought the Pro version now, if you can please tell me which settings to look at it would be helpful to check this out.

I changed the Audio Decoder to the built in one for passing through DTS-HD.

Also, I have one more question, in your guide you assigned LAV Video Decoder to XVID and DIVX but you kept the built in decoder for H264 which is the 1080p decoder used in every BluRay movie. Why is that? Just wondering if we can squeeze some more quality? I don't play XVID or DIVX files at all so that was a little strange for me.

Thanks smile

Hi Maken,

Thanks for updating the guide with the photos smile

I've set up everything as you instructed, with madVR and your upscaling settings I'm getting a stable 60% GPU usage which is good, no overheating and the GPU is stable at around 45-50C (GTX680)

However, I have several issues:

1. CPU usage is very high, with every 1080p file I play I'm getting 80% usage. Are there any SVP settings or madVR settings I can change to reduce the usage a bit? My CPU is an i5 2500K, and its overclocked to 4.5GHz. With the prvious SVP version I was getting about 65-70% and I could control the settings in the manager to do that. In the new free version I can't change any video profile settings, can you please help with this?

2. With the LAV Audio Decoder, I am unable to pass through DTS-HD, only regular DTS although I checked all the HDMI/SPDIF formats. When using the PotPlayer built in decoder I can pass through DTS-HD fine. Any clue? Audio decoding is important to me, so if there's no solution to this I'll revert to using the built in Audio decoder.

Thanks man, you're the best smile

Hi Maken,

I have just formatted Win 10 and I want to set up SVP according to your guide again, however, I see that none of the photos are loading.

Could you please try and fix it? Thanks

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Thanks for all the replies, I'll tweak my settings a bit and see what works best smile will update soon

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Just got what 5G means smile Thanks for the settings, can you explain why you changed "Frame Interpolation Mode" and "Motion Vectors Grid"?

Jeff, I am only playing downloaded MKV files, sorry buddy, no experience encoding Blu-Ray CDs

Also Rimsky, are you using madVR or EVR?

I'm using madVR with

Chroma Upsacling - Jinc, 3 Taps, Anti Ringing
Image Upsacling - Jinc, 3 Taps, Anti Ringing, Linear Light
Image Downscaling - Catmull-Rom, Anti Ringing, Linear Light

I read online that these are the best possible settings, correct?

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Thanks, can you also share a screenshot of your actual SVP settings on your Active Profile window?

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Hey Rimsky, thanks for the reply.

What are you checking load with? Windows Task Manager or SVP Manager/RealTemp etc...

For some reason I noticed that Windows 8.1 reads my CPU usage much higher than RealTemp/SVP Manager.

If I get 50-60% usage with RT/SVP, Windows shows 80-90% for some reason.

Also, can you post your SVP settings so that I can compare the load with my CPU?

Thanks smile

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Hey guys,

I have my SVP set up according to Maken's guide exactly, except that I'm using madVR instead of EVR as the video render.

My CPU is a 2500K, overclocked to 4.5GHz and my GPU is a GTX680, both very powerful.

When playing 1080p movies, my CPU can sometimes reach 70% load, usually it's at the mid 50%, my GPU load is usually at 35% which I'm ok with.

I tried using it with EVR and the CPU usage remained the same, so it must be something with the SVP Manager settings I guess.

I am not sure if this is normal or not and maybe there are some settings I should change? I am using the default settings which were selected by SVP when I installed it.

Using SVP 3.1.5

Thanks

Maken1 wrote:
Zachn wrote:

Hi Maken,

I have a problem. Suddenly when I play a movie, my CPU usage is shooting to 97% and my GPU usage is only 4%???
I didn't change any settings.

The only change I made was patching windows so that I can use independant Visual Styles and I started using IconPackager. I don't see how any of these 2 should matter?

I have currently uninstalled everything. Do you have an updated guide for the new version of SVP?

Thanks

Hi Zachn, how you been? smile

But what settings, player and settings are you using ? your pc specs ? the specs of the movie / video what is causing your high cpu usage ? best way to find the problem is check if is there X settings is causing the problem. I dont know if the " IconPackager " is causing the problem, id never tried it. In this case maybe is something missing. Please try to give us more info to see if we can find the problem.

Not yet, all this time i was working about Sound and a fix for my guide to play 60 fps videos, i noticed that when i try to play X video or movie that comes at 60 fps i have framedrops even if the cpu is not max usage, but i fixed it. I will post all of that here this week.

Greetings and sorry for the late answer.

Hey Maken.

I have a very strong PC: 2500K @ 4.5GHz, 8GB DDR3-1600 Corsair memory, MSI Z77A-GD65 MB, EVGA GTX 680

The issue happened when playing any 1080p movie, I found out that the issue was because I updated my NVIDIA driver. I always uninstall my previous driver and then install the new one, this caused SVP to not work properly. As soon as I removed SVP and setup everything again after installing a new driver version it works.

Now a new driver came out a few days ago and I updated it on the fly, however, during the first attempt the installation failed and I'm a bit of a freak when it comes to setting up things properly so I need to uninstall and reinstall the driver and then set up PotPlayer, SVP and all the filters again *sigh*, unless there is an easier solution?

Thanks

Hi Maken,

I have a problem. Suddenly when I play a movie, my CPU usage is shooting to 97% and my GPU usage is only 4%???
I didn't change any settings.

The only change I made was patching windows so that I can use independant Visual Styles and I started using IconPackager. I don't see how any of these 2 should matter?

I have currently uninstalled everything. Do you have an updated guide for the new version of SVP?

Thanks

Ok, I tried your profile settings and they work well

my CPU is a 2500K @ 4.5 GHz and my GPU is GTX680 and I have 8GB of DDR-1600 memory, so absolutely no performance drop no matter which setting I'm using.

What I'm looking? Quality. I have a powerful PC that should be able to handle every setting I throw at it. I want the best image quality I can get without artifacts and high to near perfect smoothing from SVP.
Help me with that smile

Right now with your profile my CPU usage is about 50-60%, btw you're right Half Pizel with Refinement scribbles the FPS and there is a big performance drop, so I disabled refinement and I switched to Half Pixel, I now realized that Half Pizel is higher than 2 pixels and that's why CPU usage is higher with this on.

Also, with the profile you suggested I see that my CPU usage curve is much more steady and there are no spikes like in my previous screenshots.

My GPU usage with EVR is at around 30%, are there any EVR settings I can set for this renderer? What about DXVA? Is there somewhere I can set it to CUVID like in LAV?

Thanks