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MAG79
I have tested the tearing test and i get judderfree movement on the first clip wich is alchemist then when i try using the second clip sengoku basara i get the line kind of jumping forward like micro movements so not completely judderfree... maybe with some drivers of ati? When i use madvr i cant enable gpu-acceleration on svp the window shuts down and i get c++ library problem...(get the error message only when trying to enable in 720p or 1080p or when set Quarter pixel in menu in svp) Im gonna try to do a propper uninstalltion of svp and ffdshow and all of the compenents i use and try a different graphic driver maybe that will solv the problem?
Hardware
quad i7
ati HD 5870 driver 11.8
windows 7 ultimate

Sara
I did like you said but did not work on my ati maybe only on nvda? thx any way

P.S
I just dont understand why the change is not in every frame (if causing the trouble) when 640:480 works smooth and not 720p and it is the same drawing tecnology they use to produce the anime.. sad  sad

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HI Maken:) thank you for your support!
The solving was not major fixing but it dit give me a little more judderfree pictures but the judder is still there.

Hi MAG79:) Here is the link for the episode http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EA1CK6Y2
i was just wondering about if the movie is encoded to 23.976fps and i want 60 fps out of it will it not get a little bit of judder?
Thank you guys for your help, i realy appreciate it!

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HI GUYs when we are talking about the framrates i have just one question.(yeah just one:P)
When im playing sengoku basara (anime) in screen refresh rate of my 60 hrz lcd tv.The episode is 23.976fps and i get a bit of judder after always a few seconds when played at 60 hrz interpolation and in other series its more obvious but when i play it in double  frame rates 2x i get the judder after few seconds away so judderfree. in metal alchemist i get no judder when played at 60hrz 640:480 23.976fps its butter smooth, but it gets identified by svp like its 1280:720:S. I was wondering if it has something with the pulldown? 2:2 3:2 something? my settings in artifacts is set as in makens profile big_smile for 720p bad areas artifacts suppresion is set to normal and areas artifacts mask is set to light and i have frame repeating should i set it to blending? And what does it do?:P
My input in ffdshow is  I420 and output YV12 (does YV12 have better quality then any others?) I have mphc-->madvr-->lav decoders-->splitters-->svp

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problem solved:D it was core avc i uninstalled it and voila! <3

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Hi guys:) Im using mpc.hc with the latest ffdshow+svp+the filters i use in this guide http://imouto.my/watching-h264-videos-using-dxva/
I have a problem when trying to open my movie folder i just updated to the latest ffdshow and downloaded the new svp and it just crashes the explorer window when i trying to open it hmm
I dont understand this problem? This is the information i can squeeze out

Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
   Application Name: explorer.exe
   Application Version: 6.1.7601.17567
   Application Timestamp: 4d6727a7
   Name of felmodul: qedit.dll
   Module Version: 6.6.7601.17514
   Timestamp felmodul: 4ce7b997
   Exception Code: c0000005
   Exception Offset: 0005c827
   OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.1.0.256.1
   Locale ID: 1053
   Additional Information 1: a7aa
   Additional Information 2: a7aa91f17ea749d42a4de3b390fa5b3d
   Additional Information 3: a7aa
   Additional Information 4: a7aa91f17ea749d42a4de3b390fa5b3d

Some one familiar? Im going to dontae for youre awesome work spent on your amazing spv project! big_smile

Maken1 wrote:

ok man its done smile

Hi Maken1 how you doing? smile i downloaded everything you said to me but now i wonder wich filters should i use to get the best performance?
Thx <3

Maken1 wrote:
kriiiim wrote:
Maken1 wrote:

Ok i was testing the new SVP 3.0.4 and nvidia drivers 285.27 and i have nice results. I found the best setting for high quality!! video and smooth without much or noticeable artifacts, etc. With moderate cpu usage in my case.

The resolutions that i was testing was: 720p - 23.976 fps, 1080p - 29.97 fps, 1280x540 - 23.976 fps, 1280x544 - 23.976 fps, 1280x688 25 fps, 1280x536 - 23.976 fps, 1920x816 - 23.976 fps, 1920x800 - 23.976 fps and all of them was x264 mkv.
Btw when you make your movie , etc look very smooth it have more QUALITY than the standard quality that come with the content.. its like SplashPro when you activate ultra 1080p motion2 or something. Well i did my own config to rise up more the image quality. Peoples new like me with this SVP program try to test your system and settings to find the best to your tastes and PC power try with Tron movie its the best more at the start of the movie when you can see all those blue lines if you find the way to make those lines move smoothy without much or any stutter then the rest of ful 720p you watch will be the same big_smile very smooth with not noticeable artifacts.

I uploaded two images of my personal Image Quality Config + SVP constant ( not drop and stutter very smooth like a game at constant 60 fps ) 60 fps + Tron Bdrip x264 720p DTS MA .MKV @ 7mb/s bitrate

I was wondering how to get ride of the artifacts from the begining. I tried with the settings artifact supression and all those opitons to the highest but when i do that i get stuttering but no artifacts. When i downgrade the artifacts option from sharp to normal and the other ones to normal i get less stuttering and less artifacts. i was wondering i f i could possible get rid of all artifacts and the stuttering? If its about the cpu power, i have a quad i7 2.8 and i was wondering if i should overclock it to over come those problem. And if the monitor is maybe one of the problem like input lagg wich i doubt. I will buy a dell  ultrasharp 2410 with 8-bit color processing.

Thankful for your help!
P.S Buy the why will any decoder matter? im using haili splitter

Hi Kriiim, how are you? thanks man and i need you to post some images of your artifacts with a digital camera or X capture app and Pause the player at that moment and take it screenshots.
I dont have more artifacts in my HD content since changed the player, splitter, video renderer, codecs and configure them all manualy and perfectly to avoid conflicts and unstabilities or error while trying to play X files. I was ( i lost the count ) testing many combos likes player + codecs + splitters and bla bla to find the best but it was always a big problem like: with one all ok but when playback ful HD 1080p .PS or .TS files then i got insane performance drop or without that even with the cpu at 50% of usage for example then i got stutters :S or in other cases not much stutter but then artifacts only with that Files in it X time or minutes not matter what i do if i change internal codecs to external or set another renderer ( example very old kmplayers versions + EVR CP + Haali + CoreAVC old versions and more ).
After all this time and all that matter i found the best combination of player / codecs / renderer / image quality / performance / NO big_smile artifacts / insane sound quality (L). My problem was not like your sad not about artifacts..it was about stutter and very high cpu usages with AviSynth scripts for smoothing but now with this SVP big_smile all changed!!! for good i can say.

I recommend you for compatibility / image quality / 90/99% zero artifacts while playing + this amazing SVP:
1- Lastest POTPLAYER
2- Lastest Cole2K Media codecs
3- Lastest CoreAVC ( if you have nvidia video card much better for use CUDA )
4- Lastest FFDSHOW
5- Lastest Haali Splitter ( not install that one that come with CoreAVC i prefer to install it apart and config it manual )
6- Lastest AC3Filter and AC3File
7- Lastest LAV Splitters
8- If you have nvidia video card then i recommend you this driver 285.27
9- Lastest SVP ( support this ppl if you can coz they re making a great work )

Apart of that i need you to show us images of your artifacts and copy all the info of that media files here for some pro from here can help you and the rest of us in the case if there is something wrong with it.

Thanks man and greetings.

Hi im feeling great  smile  How about you?  smile
Thank you man  big_smile  I will as soon as i have time at home i will do exactly as you recommended big_smile

Maken1 wrote:

Ok i was testing the new SVP 3.0.4 and nvidia drivers 285.27 and i have nice results. I found the best setting for high quality!! video and smooth without much or noticeable artifacts, etc. With moderate cpu usage in my case.

The resolutions that i was testing was: 720p - 23.976 fps, 1080p - 29.97 fps, 1280x540 - 23.976 fps, 1280x544 - 23.976 fps, 1280x688 25 fps, 1280x536 - 23.976 fps, 1920x816 - 23.976 fps, 1920x800 - 23.976 fps and all of them was x264 mkv.
Btw when you make your movie , etc look very smooth it have more QUALITY than the standard quality that come with the content.. its like SplashPro when you activate ultra 1080p motion2 or something. Well i did my own config to rise up more the image quality. Peoples new like me with this SVP program try to test your system and settings to find the best to your tastes and PC power try with Tron movie its the best more at the start of the movie when you can see all those blue lines if you find the way to make those lines move smoothy without much or any stutter then the rest of ful 720p you watch will be the same big_smile very smooth with not noticeable artifacts.

I uploaded two images of my personal Image Quality Config + SVP constant ( not drop and stutter very smooth like a game at constant 60 fps ) 60 fps + Tron Bdrip x264 720p DTS MA .MKV @ 7mb/s bitrate

I was wondering how to get ride of the artifacts from the begining. I tried with the settings artifact supression and all those opitons to the highest but when i do that i get stuttering but no artifacts. When i downgrade the artifacts option from sharp to normal and the other ones to normal i get less stuttering and less artifacts. i was wondering i f i could possible get rid of all artifacts and the stuttering? If its about the cpu power, i have a quad i7 2.8 and i was wondering if i should overclock it to over come those problem. And if the monitor is maybe one of the problem like input lagg wich i doubt. I will buy a dell  ultrasharp 2410 with 8-bit color processing.

Thankful for your help!
P.S Buy the why will any decoder matter? im using haili splitter

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fooladi wrote:

system: Win7 SP1 64bit
player: Potplayer version: 1.5 build 28025 -beta
ffdshow tryouts: rev 3976
graphic card: ATI Radeon HD 4200 integrated (AMD 785G Chipse)
driver version: 11.8
CPU: AthlonII X2 250
I'm not sure which condition cause this.
this error dos not appear always.
but as a case:
playing SD mpeg2
Cyberlink video decoder(HAM) + ffdshow raw + evr custom renderer
suddenly CPU usage increases too high and this error occurs.

where did you get cyberlink ham video decoder?

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MAG79 wrote:

kriiiim
What version of madVR do you use?

i have 0.65
amd catalyst 11.8 (if the drivers matters)
when playing 1080p movies with svb and mdvr choosed in mpc it stops playing if i have the gpu-acceleration enabled. If i have it disabled i get about 40-80% cpu usage but the movie laggs as F!"#...

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I have a problem with madvr, some movies it plays and some it will not or will play but have a big slowdown in motion and when i double click to make the screen fit (no exclusive mode:uncheked) it starts to blink white flashesh all th time  cyberlink ham uses for ati but i cant find it.

do you mean add filters to? or just uncheck the boxes? I need a litle bit help about this tongue

Hi!
Members, Beta Testers, Installer Masters and honored SVP Team!
Im having difficult with the  DS:filters, dont know wich one to choose, prefer and such thing. I was thinking this thread is for helping everyone that are picky as me tongue to get judder/jerkiness/stuttering or blur free from movies. Can it be more crystalclear?
Im an anime lover and i wathcing bleach naruto shippuuden and many more and when playing with svp in mpc-hc i get jerkiness and i want to get rid of that to get the ultimate experince with motionflow. The judder comes sometimes in fast moving scens and it annoys me but i think it can get fixt to crystalclear images?
Setup:
i7 860 2.8 (will overclock to 3.2 or.3.4 if it helps)
4 gb ram
HD 5870 catalyst 11.7
windows 7 ultimate 32 bit

In internal filters>transform filters i have unchecked every box, and in source filters i have unchecked  avi, ogg, matroska and mp4/mov
now i need help with external filters its so many filters, i dont know wich one to choose from and prefer..
Apreciate any help and effert Frieands big_smile

MAG79 wrote:

kriiiim
i will have the little jerkiness in movies?
No. I mean: You can get NO jerkiness in movies if you will take patience and will do little test of smoothness on your PC with different DS-filters.

will the nvidia cards peform better than amd with their phys x?
PhysX is not used. Which card is better - I don't know. I have nVidia card. It works fine.

About next version release date. Perhaps it will be august smile

Thanks for the program
Thank you

With DS-Filters you mean, the output in mpc when pressing O and change it there? i use media splitter. It wont work when i use evr custome pres so i was wondering reinstall and try it with set setting?

MAG79 wrote:

kriiiim
There are some magic in three DS-components interaction: splitter, decoder and renderer. Decoder LAVCuvid for example is "not like" some splitters and renderers.
You have to change one-by-one each of these DS-filters and see result on your monitor with Tearing test (by menu SVP or by Ctrl-Shift-T) and smoothness on to screen refresh rate.
You should see line moving on screen. Its movement must be smooth and judder/jerky free.

so in other words i will have the little jerkiness in movies? and will the nvidia cards peform better than amd with their phys x? Thanks for the program its awesome im a bit picky about things but i can live with that. Much apreciate your work and your friends work:)
P.s I was wondering when will the next version of svp come out? it will take long i guess:P any way Keep up the good work!

MAG79 wrote:

kriiiim
If your video is shown slower than sound it is mean that your processor is not powerful enough for this profile settings. See SVP-index in the performance graphs window.

Thank you for the graph tip:)
When i try to play with either evr custum pres or evr sync i do not get smooth playback. Some setting that is wrong? i have a HD 5870

MAG79 wrote:
kriiiim wrote:

every time i play 1080p movies it just shut down

Please give as detailed info: SVP tray menu - show - additional information. The problem there somewhere.

Did you try this?

MAG79 wrote:

You can change qpel to hpel and reduce radius from 2 to 1 px.

i think the problem lies in qpxl i changed it to full and halv pxl and it worked with every setting els i put, so my problem solved:D but was wondering sometimes the audio is a bit before like one sec before the image, my i7 860 is running on 2.8 ghz i thought maybe OC it to 3.4, to take effect of better quality on svp management and the sound issue? i havent used reclock will it make any difference?
Some times i still se some bluriness but there nothing to do about it?
Thanks for your help:)

Chainik wrote:
kriiiim wrote:

every time i play 1080p movies it just shut down

and any other player?

with vlc player and windows media player it works and even with mpc but with svp turned off.

it works with any other resolution but not 1080p when trying to get 60fps.
the svp package that has splitter and reckolck and mpc should i use it instead? cuz i have the newest version of mpc 1.5.3.3522 weird.. Was checking out the new version of mpc home site and the latest is 1.5.2.3456im gonna try and install it and se if it works

MAG79 wrote:

kriiiim
I don't understand.
It is not c++ error message.
I can't see additional information.


Then what is it that causing the problem? the mpc is installed in a k-lite map but it has no codek installed...weird
every time i play 1080p movies it just shut down

MAG79 wrote:

kriiiim
Can you write full error message about c++?
We needs more info about your CPU and SVP settings. You can get it from SVP: show - additional information.

be disclosed to the recipient.

My pc spec:
Intel i7 860 2.8
HD radeon 5870

The runtime error message
"Program:....Files\K-Lite Codek Pack\Media Player Classic\mpc-hc.exe


This aplication has requested runtime to terminate it in an unusual way.
Please contact the application`s supporter team for more information."

I uninstalled k-lite codek pack but downloaded the new version of mpc hc but maybe i got it wrong uninstalling it?
the settings i put in svp was the ones that MAG79 sugested for smooth playback without any artifacts or blur...

MAG79 wrote:

Here is the best smooth of SVP. It is 60p, 23-th shader. cool
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ad19grhr1qrlaee

Much better than 60p from edison. It is free from judder now. smile

Settings of SVP: 23 shader + qpel + 0.25 block overlapping + no artifacts suppression.
See details in debuginfo.txt


Hi thanks so much! now i finally get it to work without the judder:D maybe some times it get shown but its nearly noticeble,

but i get som error about c++ message when i try to play 1080p24fps to 60fps
every other resolutions work fine...