1 Reply by Kanade

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Hello Maken, thank you very much much for the guide. I wasn't able to set it up to play optimally as I didn't know which settings to touch but your guide really helped me out a lot.

That said this might be off-topic but I have a question regarding to audio settings in potplayer.
Currently, I'm using a headphone via USB DAC with LAV Audio Decoder for watching videos on Potplayer though there are some settings in "audio" tab where I just don't know if I need to adjust them or not. Here is the screenshot of my current audio settings in potplayer:
http://i.imgur.com/b9ZX8UN.jpg
I also turned on normalizer to boost the sound level:
http://i.imgur.com/xq24U0p.jpg

My question is, do I need to turn on/tick settings under "reverb settings"? I'm not quite sure how these settings work and a little google search confuses me as I'm not sure if I need to turn them on or not.

Once again, thanks for the help.

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2 Reply by Kanade

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MAG79 wrote:

Kanade
I said either smoothness or sharpness. One of two. Only one available at once.

Thank you it worked.

Alright, thanks for the help really appreciate it.

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3 Reply by Kanade

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MAG79 wrote:

Kanade
how do I set up correctly for these?
Interpolation and blending. Two settings in the Profile setting window: Target frame rate. Blend frames to screen refresh rate.
1. Double source frame rate, enabled
2. To screen refresh rate, disabled

How do I set up this third method?
3. Source multiplied by 3, disabled (or the same as 2)
But switch your monitor to 72 Hz mode.

Thank you and sorry for the late reply.

So in other words, I need to setup like this? This will achieve the smoothness and sharpness?
http://i.imgur.com/8eehsdU.png

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4 Reply by Kanade

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Okay, I got the artifactless. I've tried it and I can see the results immediately.

Sorry. I can't understand what you want to know? Theory from start to end? It is impossible in one forum post.
What I mean by "achieve smoothness and sharpness", I mean how do I set up correctly for these?

MAG79 wrote:

Smoothness. Best without blending.
1. frameblending adds dissolve of frames and in fact you see 48 fps video at 60 Hz screen.
2. each frame has its movements. So, it looks more smooth.
Sharpness. Best without blending.
1. frameblending adds dissolve of frames. Only slow motions look good but fast motions has double contours.
2. each object in each frame has its position. So, it looks more sharp.

Third one is use interpolation only without blending but turn display to multiply framerate: 48 Hz or 72 Hz.
How do I set up this third method?

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5 Reply by Kanade

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MAG79

Thank you for the information.

So the first method 1. framedoubling (frame interpolating) to 48 fps and then frameblending to 60 fps. is the one you explained before? (therefore, use either 1. via SVP only or 2. Intepolating via SVP & blending via madVR)
And using either of these method will result in artifactless?
 
As for second method frame interpolating to 60 fps, how do you do that?
And how do you achieve smoothness and sharpness?

I'm sorry, I'm still confused on the two methods you have explained as well as three effects (smoothness, sharpness and artifactless).

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6 Reply by Kanade

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I would appreciate it if you can reply my last post.

I still don't know the advantage and disadvantage of using this method of interpolate/blending.

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7 Reply by Kanade

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Thank you, the error message is gone.

However, what is the benefit of using this interpolate and blending?

I don't quite get the use of this settings.

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8 Reply by Kanade

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For 1. via SVP only:, I'm getting error message as shown below:
http://i.imgur.com/2ry5HZI.jpg
The message keeps popping up throughout the video.

For 2. Intepolating via SVP & blending via madVR:, I'm not sure if its actually blending it to 60fps:
http://i.imgur.com/wTPiWtY.png

So overall, is it best to use either of these methods to "reduce" the visibility of artifacts? Could you clarify the benefits of using these methods?

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9 Reply by Kanade

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For this point:

4. Yes, smooth motion. I typed it not on PC, sorry for not exact terms. smooth motion in madVR is hardware analog to SVP blend frames to screen refresh rate option. It is usefull if you interpolate 24 to 48 and then blend to 60 fps.

Could you explain what you mean by interpolate 24 to 48 and then blend to 60 fps? How do I do this with using SVP?

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10 Reply by Kanade

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Okay, thank you for the info.

Lastly, sorry for being persistent but is there anything else I can try to remove the dragonfly artifacts completely?

Thank you.

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11 Reply by Kanade

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Alright.

So just to double check, is there anything more I can try for removing dragonfly artifacts?

Also, I get this error message time to time when I open a file to play:
http://i.imgur.com/Z7y2D8B.png

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12 Reply by Kanade

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MAG79 wrote:

Kanade
Did you try change option "SVP menu - Turn off on seek"?

I see previous frames all flashing
It can be only if you selected "Dont turn off". It is ffdShow buffer's work. All we can do is to make some tricks.

BTW. I preparing additional solution to "SVP menu - Turn off on seek" menu. You will see it in next SVP version.

Yes, I did set it to "Dont turn off". What you mean by "make some tricks"? Do you mean as in seek slowly and not fast?

Alright I'll wait for the next update then.

One more thing, to update any components (for example: SVP lite, fddshow and avisynch) do I download the latest installers and just run them?
Or do I have to delete everything first and than install?

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13 Reply by Kanade

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Thank you for the information about dragonfly artifacts. Now I can understand it better.

Your right, looks like I won't be able to remove the artifacts completely... after trying different combinations, this is the setting I find the best with minimum dragonfly artifacts:
http://i.imgur.com/7g2kR6V.png
It removes the noticeable and big ones but I can still see small texts having dragonfly artifacts.

Is there anything else I can try?? If this is the best we could do, then it can't be helped I guess... but if there is more tweaking I can try to remove dragon fly artifacts completely, then I'm more than happy to try it.
Also, do I apply the above settings to 1920x1080 profile as well? Or will they have to be set differently?

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Alright, so this is totally different from dragonfly artifacts and its the last problem I would like to get help.

Apparently, when I seek fast/repeatedly during playback:
- I don't see the current frame immediately instead I see previous frames all flashing
- It sometimes freezes the player (not the computer, just the player itself)
- have very long delays

Is there any solutions for this?

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14 Reply by Kanade

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Thank you for the reply.

After testing various vidoes:
1. Changing SVP shader to standard/complicated: It didn't do anything as the "Drangonfly artifacts" are still there
2. Enabling artifacts masking to average/above normal:
        - For average, it didn't do anything as the effect is still there
        - For above average, it reduced the dragonfly artifacts by a lot however, it didn't completely remove it as I can still see the effect
        - For strongest, the effect is completely gone but there are no smoothness during pan/tilt shots. It's same as watching without SVP.

As a result, from what I can see the best option is to enable artifacts masking to above average however the effect is still visible and it hinders my viewing experience.

Is there any other thing I can try? because the current ones don't seem to remove the drangonfly artifacts completely.

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15 Reply by Kanade

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Okay I'll do that.

As for the picture problem, I've uploaded a sample video of it.
Please download it and see it for yourself. I don't know the technical term for it  and I don't know if this falls into "interpolation artifacts".
http://depositfiles.com/files/htjpvufbv

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16 Reply by Kanade

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MAG79 wrote:

Kanade
It's OK. I can explain something not clear to you.

1. It is difficult to find the problem without any details about crashes. This picture tells nothing specific about error.
2. I think you tell about interpolation artifacts. Do you?
3. Sorry. It is lost in translation. SVP menu - Turn off on seek.
4. Yes, smooth motion. I typed it not on PC, sorry for not exact terms. smooth motion in madVR is hardware analog to SVP blend frames to screen refresh rate option. It is usefull if you interpolate 24 to 48 and then blend to 60 fps.

1. Yes, that's why I asked can you tell me how to get error logs from potplayer?
As for windows log, is this what you want?
Log Name:      Application
Source:        Application Error
Date:          3/04/2013 5:11:31 PM
Event ID:      1000
Task Category: (100)
Level:         Error
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:      Eric-PC
Description:
Faulting application name: PotPlayerMini.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x508fa0c9
Faulting module name: PotPlayer.dll, version: 1.5.35431.0, time stamp: 0x51008e0e
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x000ca743
Faulting process id: 0x48ac
Faulting application start time: 0x01ce303189e3e9ca
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\LAV Filters\x86\PotPlayer\PotPlayerMini.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files (x86)\LAV Filters\x86\PotPlayer\PotPlayer.dll
Report Id: 53606799-9c25-11e2-8237-00acc0a02055
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="Application Error" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>100</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2013-04-03T06:11:31.000000000Z" />
    <EventRecordID>66721</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>Application</Channel>
    <Computer>Eric-PC</Computer>
    <Security />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data>PotPlayerMini.exe</Data>
    <Data>0.0.0.0</Data>
    <Data>508fa0c9</Data>
    <Data>PotPlayer.dll</Data>
    <Data>1.5.35431.0</Data>
    <Data>51008e0e</Data>
    <Data>c0000005</Data>
    <Data>000ca743</Data>
    <Data>48ac</Data>
    <Data>01ce303189e3e9ca</Data>
    <Data>C:\Program Files (x86)\LAV Filters\x86\PotPlayer\PotPlayerMini.exe</Data>
    <Data>C:\Program Files (x86)\LAV Filters\x86\PotPlayer\PotPlayer.dll</Data>
    <Data>53606799-9c25-11e2-8237-00acc0a02055</Data>
  </EventData>
</Event>

2. I'll upload a sample video.

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17 Reply by Kanade

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MAG79 wrote:

Kanade
1. It will be great if you send all potplayer errors details to us. Error text, error number, module name. You can find it in windows log or to collect manually after press error details when error occurs.
2. Small jitter can be for several reasons. Check first is tearing test line moves smoothly without jitter (ctrl-win-T).
3. Delays on rewind is a problem. We work on it. You can adjust it in SVP menu - stop smooth on rewind option.
4. Did you try smooth video option in madVR renderer?

Thank you for the reply.

1. How do I get access to the error logs on potplayer?  Also, I'm not able to press error details as the messages don't have them or the potplayer shuts down without any error messages.
Though, I was able to take a screenshot:
http://i.imgur.com/C0cu38R.png
Mind you, this message doesn't ALWAYS pop up whenever potplayer crashes. Sometimes it shows, other times potplayer closes by itself or crashed without any messages etc.

2. I don't think I have any jitters/tearing problem as the test line moves smoothly.
I don't know how to say this exactly but the problem I'm referring to is where the picture/text during playback "shakes" or "vibrates"... like it doesn't effect the whole screen but it effects specific images, texts and subtitles.
I'll try to take a sample video and upload it.

3. Where is that "stop smooth on rewind option"? I couldn't find it on profile nor context menu on SVP.

4. "Smooth video option" as in smooth motion? Yes I have that enabled and the problem still occurs with it.
I currently disabled it as someone told me its no good when using SVP but I'm not sure...


I'm really a novice in this so please bear with me.

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18 Topic by Kanade

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Warning: you're reading old and outdated topic, any solutions given here may not be relevant to the current version of SVP!
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Hello, I'm currently having various problems with SVP. I've just installed lite version of SVP with the latest fddshow and avisynch to play videos smoothly on my potplayer.
FYI, I have other components already installed and updated via following this guide: http://imouto.my/configuring-potplayer- … -decoding/

After installing the components and presetting according to http://www.svp-team.com/wiki/Watching_anime the video played smoothly for both 720p and 1080p. However, I started to experience all sorts of problems which I have no idea to fix:
- The player crashes a lot for both 720 and 1080. It crashes while on windowed and full screen mode. Sometimes it crashes with the error message (such as C++ error or "not responding" messages), other times the player closes by itself without a sign
- I can see a small jitter/stuttering for some scenes
- There are massive delays in seeking during playback

As a result, I'm not able to watch the videos peacefully and I don't know what to configure to fix these problems.

Here are my specs:
http://i.imgur.com/Yu0hQBl.png
This is the profile for playing 720p:
http://i.imgur.com/RXSaqKS.png
This is for 1080:
http://i.imgur.com/RXlkgD7.png

If your need any more info, please tell me.
Thank you.


P.S Ultimately, I was bothered with jerkiness/choppiness of the video while the camera was tilting or panning when watching anime. As a result, I found out that since my monitor only supports 60Hz, the only solution for this problem is to get a monitor that supports multiple 24Hz or use SVP.

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19 Reply by Kanade

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Hello, thank you for this wonderful guide. I was told to use SVP for my 60Hz only supported monitor as I'm currently experiencing jerkiness/choppiness during panning or tilting shots when watching anime.

FYI, I've followed this guide (http://imouto.my/configuring-potplayer- … -decoding/) for watching 10 bit anime on potplayer.
As a result, I have all the important components installed already except for SVP itself, FDD Show and AviSynch.

Ultimately, I have some questions in regarding to setting up SVP for my potplayer:
- First of all, I understand that I have to download SVP 3.1.4 Lite  and ffdShow rev.4500 x86. However, what exactly do I need to download for Avisynth? Do I download "Avisynth 2.5.8" on third party packages or "AviSynth 2.5.8 (SVP edition)" on Avisynth plugins - the heart of SVP
- After installing these components, what exactly do I need to configure on potplayer to use SVP for my potplayer? I've read through the guide however, I'm not sure what to touch and tweak to use SVP. Also, FYI I've followed every single steps from the guide I mentioned above.

If you need more information, please tell me.

Thank you, your help would be appreciate it.

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