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I've just build a new machine a few days ago, 6700k, 32GB RAM, GTX1080, having the same problem as you.
After investigate and troubleshooting for 2 days, finally i found the root cause of this problem is the PCI-E controller on all Skylake CPU.
Boot to BIOS set the PCI-E link speed of your display card to Gen2, save and reboot.
DONE. Enjoy your movie.
In that case your step 4 would be more like a step 3 with the manually setting threads to be step 4, no?
I've done it on all of my pc/notebook, just simply delete that avisynth.dll file from the root of mpc-hc, nothing else. I don't have to set threads manually anymore.
Step 3 solved the issue, thanks for the help. I wouldn't suspect this because all cpu threads is running before, seems like this is some kind of a bug.
You may want to try to do my step 4 advice at once for all, after that the auto threads will function correctly, and SVP 4 will be running base on Avisynth version 2.6.0.5
In fact the avisynth.dll file from AvisynthMT version 2.5.8.6 inside mpc-hc folder, is the root cause of this kind of smoothness trouble from my personal experience.
4. delete C:\Program Files (x86)\SVP\MPC-HC\avisynth.dll
I've seen something like this ages ago...
You may want to replace avisynth.dll with the one from SVP 3 - 2.5.8 "special SVP edition".
Just place it near the video player's executable...
My player folder already have an avisynth.dll seating there, replace it didn't change anything.
So, i'm doing it the opposite way, delete the avisynth.dll from that folder.
You guess what, the auto thread number generated is still remain 14, but the video is smooth now...
hmmm...
how many threads have you set manually?
and what number do you see in "auto" mode?here's how to check:
Information -> Additional info -> Last generated script, check the number in "global threads = XXX" line
By "Auto" the generated script global threads=14, but the video is definitely choppy.
I checked the script generated by SVP3 is 15, than apply the same number manually to SVP4.
here is the weird result of manually selecting threads and the threads number actually inside the script:
Auto=14 <choppy
3=3 <choppy
5=5 <smooth
7=7 <smooth
9=9 <choppy
11=11 <smooth
13=13 <smooth
15=15 <smooth
17=17 <smooth
19=19 <choppy
21=21 <smooth
23=23 <smooth
Right click on the SVP tray icon -> Outer Lighting, you can simply disable it.
I had a similar issue that was solved by increasing the processing threads amount to 7.
not an option here cause Keis has an i7 and trying to watch a 720p video...
Bingo!! Tried to set the processing threads to above 5 manually, problems solved!!
Thank you, Nintendo Maniac 64
So there is a bug in the auto processing threads detection again!
Keis
Thanks for that OBS, tried it and quite easy to useIn timeline2, SVP 4 is worked but from what I saw, it's looked like the setting has a strong artifact masking?
OBS is quite nice to use for screen recording at high frame rate, although it is designed for live broadcasting.
I just use it for screen recording, since most of the time log file don't tell any problems but screen shoot really can't help to show what's going on.
Everything is set by the assess system performance option, i don't even touch anything other than turn off the outer light that i don't use.
I've turned on the fluency and tearing test during screen recoding on purposely to show that SVP is working and no problems on screen rendering, but the actual video content is so choppy as you see....
Full Settings:
Full Log:
I see somethings wrong of the screen refresh rate detection in your log, it show not only once but every time you tried to start a video playback.
1. Screens: screen 0 - 1920x1080 @1.000 Hz [using OS refresh rate], 96PPI
2. Playback: playing at 1.41035 [23.976*1/17]
How the hell could anything run at a refresh rate of 1.000Hz!?
Video playback at only 1.41035 frames per second!?
hmm... plays fine to me
maybe a few jerks noticed on the final vertical panning sometimes and maybe there're more of them in "animation" rather than in "film"
Not fine on my side, i also tested SVP 4 on 2 laptop, same unacceptable result...
that clip is just a quick test, i confirmed that all of the video got worst result from SVP4 than not using it on my machines.
Test clip round 2:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByIqDF … sp=sharing
This is a simple scene with no moving background, just a spinning card wheel and the scolling staff list
Compare screen recording:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByIqDF … sp=sharing
How bad SVP4 done it, and SVP3 render it so smooth...
Sure, why not? the test clip is a part of the opening from Gakusen Toshi Asterisk episode 4.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByIqDF … sp=sharing
I just cut it out for testing, since this anime got alots of vertical and horizontal scene, it's a easy catch to see if SVP is working correctly or not.
Hell yeah~ Read my tread, i'm on the same boat.
http://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2879
What those beta tester doing for such a long time?
I can't believe no one could tell SVP4 is doing worst than without it...
the values is 1
SVP 4 don't use the same default frames interpolation processing method as SVP 3.17
I believe it should be the same o_O
Two main factors that can affect fluidity in the first place:
1. arifacts masking - you can turn it on or off in SVP 4 Free
2. "frames interpolation mode" which is set to "adaptive" in SVP 4 Free
Believe and reality are not the same, i believe in my eyes.
I found out why i feel strange about SVP4 in this post
http://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopic … 974#p52974
xenonite explain SVP4 don't do the same frame interpolation as SVP3
By the way i do a screen recording of what's actually happen and the different of fluidity result from both SVP3 & SVP4.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByIqDF … sp=sharing
Look at the cloud movement and the vertical scene afterward, see for yourself.
Ok, it is now clear.
Just updated SVP 4 Free to 4.0.0.46 and give it another try, still get the non smooth jumpy frame effect as before.
Unfortunately my eyes are so sensitive to frame content movement, that i can easily tell the different smoothness between 30 to 100fps in games,
SVP 4 Free's default frames interpolation method is too jumpy for me, SVP 3.1.7 default profile is much better.
Conclusion:
1. SVP 4 don't use the same default frames interpolation processing method as SVP 3.17
2. I can't choose frames interpolation processing method in SVP4 Free
3. I need to buy the Pro version and customize profile to get back the same smoothness effect as SVP 3.1.7
Alright, i'll buy the Pro and give it a try later.
Keis
The answer is in the smoothness settings.
Did you any costomization of SVP 3.1.7 profile settings or you use default values?
No, i use the default profile of SVP 3.1.7 from the auto detection, didn't change anything.
Where is the smoothness settings in SVP4 GUI?
I don't see any configuration values related to smoothness that i could change in the menu.
First of all i list my PC config here, so there is no question about my machine performance.
i7 2600k@4.5Ghz, 16GB ram, GTX670 4GB, 1080p@60Hz
I used to use SVP3 for a long time, basically use it for anime, and i really appreciate for the team who write this software.
I tried SVP4 for a few week, but i feel there is a big different in motion smoothness compare to SVP3.1.7
Switch between SVP4 and SVP3, compare with the same video file,
for example the video trailer of DISSIDIA FINAL FANTASY here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0oTJiy6j8g
I found that SVP4 produce cleaner sharper less artifacts picture, but in the same time it loss the motion smoothness from SVP3.
Compare to the source file without processing, SVP4 just looks like it don't do any frames interpolation insertion at all.
In the end, i switch back to use SVP3.1.7 as my daily driver, although it produce less clean picture, but it produce way much more smoother video than SVP4 to my eyes.
So, i've a question. Is there any way to configure SVP4 to get the same result of motion smoothness of SVP3?
If the answer is NO, than there is no point for me to buy SVP4 or even switch to the SVP4Free after all...
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