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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjViy6k … e=youtu.be
Looks really good on edges, I doubt that will never be available for real-time playback tho.
ckychris wrote:30/60FPS to 1440P 144FPS
next time use 120 Hz mode. More hz doesnt mean better
Hi, why would 120 Hz works better than 144 Hz? Since both of them are multiplies of 24.
> And these settings cannot be simply used in SVP code.
SVPcode uses the very same video profiles as SVP uses for real-time conversion.
You can define your own custom profile for encoding with the settings closer to Interframe's.> is it legal to use latest svpflow plugins in the SVP 4 directory?
yep
> If so, is there new feature/performance/quality increases?
not for Avisynth plugins
Thank you!
Hi SVP project users/developers,
The videos I am transcoding are x264 720p/1080p 30/60FPS to 1440P 144FPS. I am still using the spirton guide to convert them. http://www.spirton.com/convert-videos-to-60fps/
I have tried out the SVP transcoding feature (without custom profiles) and find that InterFrame 2.6.0 by SubJunk is still superior in terms of quality, smoothness and artifacts.
However, I can see that this guide has not been updated for years, and no longer supports the latest codecs.
Upon looking at the script I can see smooth_video = SVSmoothFps(Input, Super, Vectors, SmoothString, url="www.svp-team.com", mt=Cores),
where defaults are
super: "scale:{
up:2,
down:4
},
gpu:0,
rc:false}"
vectors: "{block:{
w:16,
overlap:2,
main:{
search:{
distance:0,
coarse:{
distance:-10,
bad:{
sad:2000
}
}
}
},
refine:[{thsad:250}]
}"
SmoothString: "{rate:{
num:60000,
den:1001,
abs:true
},
area:0,
area_sharp:1.2},
scene:{blend:true, mode:0}
}"
And these settings cannot be simply used in SVP code.
Question 1.
Since SVP 4 is a product, is it legal to use latest svpflow plugins in the SVP 4 directory? If so, is there new feature/performance/quality increases?
Question 2.
Transcoding with latest LAV, ffshow, x264 tools with Megui provide correct frames but unable to finish encoding with missing track information. Is there anything I can do about it?
Question 3.
Has anyone compared SVP transcoding and spirton guide to see the difference between them?
Thank you all for reading and enjoy your day!
Finally, SVPcode is here. We should definitely thank the developers for SVP.
But there is a one downside compared to MEGUI/interframe.
It's motion prediction limited to 1 frame? Most built-in subtitles will distort and create wave pattern when there are objects moving though them.
For files needed to be converted, it's quality must be near perfect. And these artifacts are unacceptable.
Of course if this is limited by SVP algorithms then nothing we can do about it.
Chainik wrote:svpmark-ixbt-ryzen.png (c) iXBT.com
SVPmark's score-per-$ and score-per-watt graphs would be more essential.
1700 All cores 3.7 ghz is 88 watts at 100% load. 6900k is 140 watts?
Do you have an nVidia Pascal card? The DPC Latency issues everyone knows about them with Pascal, they've improved over the last few driver updates, but they're still there. I have a GTX 1070, but I've seen people with the GTX 1080 & 1060 report DPC Latency issues. I've already disabled all of the above, and while it certainly helps, the DPC Latency issues still remain.
However, having said that, these issues have never impacted SVP for me. I use MPC x64 + Madvr + SVP combination.
Yes. DPC Latency doesn't decrease but system feel much more responsive. have you tried those settings with a game? I personally break records in one overwatch game. Maybe input lag improvement is more significant.
Btw, use the fluency test in SVP, you may notice tiny shutter that normally can't see.
I believe that it has to deal with timer sync between windows and Bios.
After research and testing in overwatch/svp play back, the following pretty much fixed EVERYTHING.
Please try them out and report back here if they work or not.
These tweaks are applied via Command Prompt (Admin).
bcdedit /set useplatformclock true
bcdedit /set tscsyncpolicy Enhanced
bcdedit /set disabledynamictick yes
To remove them:
bcdedit /deletevalue useplatformclock
bcdedit /deletevalue tscsyncpolicy
bcdedit /deletevalue disabledynamictick
I've attached a screenshot of mpc-hc with the frametimes. Using svp4 free with anime setting. I've tried changing the number of threads,performance slider,switching vsync on/off,disabling hardware acceleration and none of them are helping. Another observation is that when I enable d3d fullscreen with dxva on nvidia card, mpc-hc freezes when I try to go full-screen.
Using an optimus laptop with
i7 4700mq
GT-755m
8gb ram
if you are using madvr, disable exculsive fullscreen , disable dx 11, un-tick present frames in advance, use 3 frames backbuffers.
This has bothered me for 1 year. You don't have to suffer. Good day.
Looks like SVP scales very well. I can see 1700@3.7ghz is > 200% performance compared to my old 1230v2
ckychris wrote:My mobo got signed by someone not working at the post office. I was sending it to the post office. Now the delivery company claims their driver has delivered it to the post office and it's not.
sigh.
what a day. sorry to hear that
Yeah, they just found my package. So benchmarks are coming in today.
My mobo got signed by someone not working at the post office. I was sending it to the post office. Now the delivery company claims their driver has delivered it to the post office and it's not.
sigh.
Looks like your CPU have some thermal issue, in my experience E3-1230 v2 is just capable of processing 4K video, with CPU utilization around 70%.
This is my test result.Details: real-life /FHD
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decode video: 16.18x (388.3 fps)
48 fps - vectors search: 1.39x (66.5 fps)
60 fps - frame composition: 3.85x (230.7 fps)
48 fps - [SVP] fastest: 6.64x (318.7 fps)
48 fps - [SVP] simple 1: 4.40x (211.1 fps)
60 fps - [SVP] good: 2.40x (144.2 fps)
60 fps - [SVP] high: 1.89x (113.4 fps)
60 fps - [SVP] highest: 0.85x (51.2 fps)
72 fps - [SVP] simple 2: 4.30x (309.7 fps)
I think it's my mobo and cheap ram cause issues. Maybe it's the player, filters, settings, rendener etc...
I will see how it goes with a fresh installed system.
wait, i don't understand your summary result.
why it showed intel xeon instead of ryzen?
how was your personal experience? is it good to jump?
i was thinking to change my current i7 skylake to ryzen ship soon.
My personal experience with Xeon is good. Loads are 25%(720p) to 80%(1080p) 60fps. There is micro jitters and sometimes shutters between scenes. My xeon build cannot handle 1440p nor 4k nor 144fps monitors.
I still don't have the motherboard yet so I can't say if it's a good jump. But a 270% performance comparison should be better than good. I hope to get rid of micro jitters and be more stable when jumping frames.
I wouldn't suggest you switch from an i7 skylake unless you have one of the 4k or 144fps monitors. Since i7 skylake is more than capable. Zen 2 should have improvement to clock speed since Zen is a brand new architecture.
... however it supports DDR4-3200 on base BCLK ("bus speed") value and up to 3600 with oc'd BCLK
even through AMD's Windows monitoring and tuning tool
I will see if there is a difference for higher speed Ram.
For the motherboard, I am still deciding since PCCG has pushed the arrival day a week back. I have cancelled the order and purchased 1700 today. Currently sitting on my desk.
Since everybody warned against Asus. I am now considering gigabyte or MSI.
Will the Ryzen 8 cores 16 threads CPU perform as well as the 6900k? Let's find out together.
The Ryzen CPU has reduced shutter in gaming tests compared to the 7700k. I wish to see if MPCHC will provide a more smooth, stable experience.
The ryzen 1700 is currently @$329USD, overclocking with a $99 board, it's comparable to a 6900k. I expect the 1700 can handle heavy workload such as 4K 24->60fps playback.
Here is my upgraded build
CPU - Ryzen 1700@3.8ghz CPU
Motherboard - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 (rev. 1.0)
Ram - 2x8GB/2400/Cas15
Cooler - stock [212 Evo when bracket arrive]
GPU - Gtx 1070 Gaming G1
Monitor - D2414H 1080p, Nvidia custom res up to 1440p testing(it won't work with 4K . If anyone knows how can I achieve that it will be great)
TODO
Overclock stability test
Svpmark 3
Mkv, Mp4, Flv playback
SVP 4 settings
SVP 4 custom parameter
Any test on request including performance and custom settings
Filters
Lav filters
ffshow
SVP4
Madvr
Overclock stability test
1.225v 3700ghz stable for prime 95 ~70C stock cooler
Svpmark 3 results
Test summary - Quick test, will comeback later after I clean up the desk.
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Date: 2017-03-10T19:15:04
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700 Eight-Core @3692 MHz [16 threads]
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 [ver.378.72]
Mode: FHD + GPU [33 threads]
Overall scores
-----------------------
Synthetic CPU: MC4631
Synthetic GPU: MG9622
Real-life: FG4220
Details: synthetic
-----------------------
CPU: compose (single-threaded): 733
CPU: compose (multi-threaded): 4465
CPU: search (single-threaded): 133
CPU: search (multi-threaded): 4811
GPU: system -> GPU transfer: 1507
GPU: GPU -> system transfer: 1270
GPU: calculations: 5765
GPU: total score: 8154
Details: real-life /FHD
-----------------------
decode video: 14.17x (340.0 fps)
48 fps - vectors search: 2.91x (139.6 fps)
60 fps - frame composition: 5.11x (306.9 fps)
48 fps - [SVP] fastest: 7.55x (362.2 fps)
48 fps - [SVP] simple 1: 6.26x (300.3 fps)
60 fps - [SVP] good: 3.89x (233.3 fps)
60 fps - [SVP] high: 3.52x (211.1 fps)
60 fps - [SVP] highest: 1.70x (102.1 fps)
72 fps - [SVP] simple 2: 5.14x (370.4 fps)
Mkv, Mp4, Flv playback jitter/smoothness
All very smooth. Detailed tests later.
SVP 4 settings
All maximum @1080p. 4K never worked even for low.
SVP 4 custom parameter FPS
Reference
Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 OLD BUILD
720P30/24F->1080P60F Highest minor jitter
1080P30/24F->1080P60F Highest minor jitter
1080P30/24F->4K60F Highest MHCPC crashed
1080P30/24F->4K60F Low 80% on 4 threads, 40% on the other
4K29F->4K60F 50000kbps without Madvr - CPU 100%, massive shutter
4K30F->4K60F LG_4K_View-the-Feeling without Madvr - SVP crashed
Test summary
-----------------------
Date: 2017-03-06T00:24:06
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 @3299 MHz [8 threads]
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 [ver.378.72]
Mode: FHD + GPU [8 threads]
Overall scores
-----------------------
Synthetic CPU: MC2136
Synthetic GPU: MG3868
Real-life: FG2379
Details: synthetic
-----------------------
CPU: compose (single-threaded): 580
CPU: compose (multi-threaded): 2386
CPU: search (single-threaded): 469
CPU: search (multi-threaded): 1934
GPU: system -> GPU transfer: 1679
GPU: GPU -> system transfer: 1702
GPU: calculations: 5100
GPU: total score: 9786
Details: real-life /FHD
-----------------------
decode video: 16.17x (388.0 fps)
48 fps - vectors search: 1.26x (60.3 fps)
60 fps - frame composition: 3.54x (212.4 fps)
48 fps - [SVP] fastest: 7.07x (339.5 fps)
48 fps - [SVP] simple 1: 4.52x (216.9 fps)
60 fps - [SVP] good: 1.95x (117.2 fps)
60 fps - [SVP] high: 1.36x (81.9 fps)
60 fps - [SVP] highest: 0.60x (36.2 fps)
72 fps - [SVP] simple 2: 3.54x (254.8 fps)
ckychris wrote:Issue
Full screen mode playback shutter for every 1s.Observation
Decoder FPS will peak every second (ffshow OSD)
example: 59~61 -> 186(a split moment) -> 59~61Window mode is not affected. Exclusive mode, different output or disable SVP will not fix it.
Fix
Temp fix: keep video player open (MPCHC) and click taskbar's show hidden icons area to trigger an event. Video will be free of lag for it's entire duration.To be flank I think that is the LAV video decoder problem. But both Hardware/copy-back/native/GPU acceleration mode has the same issue.
This might be the problem I am experiencing. Could you please give me instructions on how to do it?
I am using Poplayer btw.
Thanks!
Sure. Open a video in windowed, then click at the "^" icon at the bottom right (window taskbar), you should see the hidden icons. Now head back to the video, then the decoder will not shutter anymore!
Issue
Full screen mode playback shutter for every 1s.
Observation
Decoder FPS will peak every second (ffshow OSD)
example: 59~61 -> 186(a split moment) -> 59~61
Window mode is not affected. Exclusive mode, different output or disable SVP will not fix it.
Fix
Madvr Dx9 with backbuffer 3
To be flank I think that is the LAV video decoder problem. But both Hardware/copy-back/native/GPU acceleration mode has the same issue.
Known issue for windows 10 + nvidia new drivers, after some research and hours of effort, multiple components, including SVP, LAV filters and madvr is having performance issues and stability issues. Some of the settings like D3D Fullscreen makes random frame time increases to 100ms for me. Extremely slight stutter happens with a lot of settings as well.
There is no cure to that. =[
Updated.
Have you tried driver version 350.12?
It's worth trying based on this post.
No luck. But thanks.
ckychris wrote:brand new windows 10 OS
What build number? Use public builds (10586), don't use insider builds (14251). They are too buggy.
Both fresh non updated and 10586.07, thanks again.
You could always try running DDU (LINK and then re-installing your graphics drivers.
The main thing is that Windows 10 likes to install its own drivers from Microsoft which can bork with some things (yes, even on a clean OS installation), and running DDU can help prevent that from occurring.
I mean, I don't think it'll make things worse, and should at least rule out the drivers being the issue.
Just tried to install a older driver and looked through bios settings, no luck, hope one day it will fix itself...
I don't mean to be naggy, but you didn't clarify if you tried setting the LAV decoder (the same drop-down menu where you select "copy-back") to "None"
It's fine, thank you for your help again. I just updated the post and I have tried all possible options, which includes None. The video is currently being uploaded, you may get a clearer image for the issue.
I think your problem is very likely in the driver.
But before you tweaking your driver, how about try to watch with other video player?
MPC-BE, choose the 7zip extension if you don't want to install it.
PotPlayer portable
VLC portableAbove video players are portable, but only MPC-BE and PotPlayer that can use ffdshow raw filter.
Try with one of those and compare whether the problem persists.If there's no problem with other video player, it's very likely MPC-HC problem.
The problem is still there, I will record videos to explain. Just setup PotPlayer portable, everything were fine except full screen playback.
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