1 Reply by narkohol

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flowreen91 wrote:

If you want to apply TensorRT-RTX, do this:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ … XX-S2JMOXD

1. Close SVP and the player.
2. Make a backup of your "SVP 4" folder.
3. Copy the "SVP 4" folder from the archive on top of yours, overwrite all. Merge it, don't delete or replace your rife folder: SVP's own files in it are still needed.
4. Start SVP and add the switch once: main menu (the vertical dots) > Application settings > "User defined options" tab. Title: TensorRT-RTX (any text), Script name: rife_rtx (this exact name matters), Option scope: FRC profile, Allowed values: ON or OFF, then Add option.
5. Open the RIFE profile you use. At the bottom there is now a "TensorRT-RTX" row under "User defined options", set it to On. Engine stays "NVIDIA TensorRT".
6. Play a video.

Off gives stock SVP behaviour. The first time a model or a resolution is used
it prepares the engine by itself, after that it is cached.

Followed your instructions and it works. Thanks for sharing.

I just get this error when playing the next file in the playlist:
https://i.postimg.cc/bNKpjcVv/image.png

This only happens with 'TensorRT-RTX' set to 'on'. When it is 'off' there is no error.
Any idea why this error shows up or how to fix it?

I also tried your R79 and R81 solutions and both work but there is no change to this error showing up when playing next file...

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2 Reply by narkohol

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Is there any improvement by using latest versions of Vapoursynth?

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3 Reply by narkohol

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Is there any kind of configuration that works well for cases like this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emZZexE … UGZXhpdCA4

It's all white tiles with straight black lines everywhere. It was the only time I had to fully disable any FI, because it was a constant hell of artifacts with anything I tried...

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4 Reply by narkohol

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Is there any improvement by updating to this?

https://github.com/AmusementClub/vs-mlr … tag/v15.15

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5 Reply by narkohol

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dawkinscm wrote:

Has the SVP algorithm been improved since RIFE came out? I ask because the basic Automatic Profile with the slider on "Higher Quality" is actually a great starting point. RIFE motion looks a bit more "fluid" but at the cost of some very nasty artifacts. With a little tweaking of SVP Pro, it is possible to get practically artifact free smooth motion with very little GPU resource, especially if you have an good Nvidia GPU. I'm glad I've upgraded but there was really no need. More importantly, I feel a little like I wasted a lot of time trying to reduce RIFE artifacts when I could have just been using SVP by itself.

I'm not sure about that. In all my test scenes RIFE is both smoother and has less artifacts than normal SVP:

The Fellowship Of The Ring - 2160p HDR - Sauron Intro & Battle of Dagorlad
1.54GB
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AIhZFB … sp=sharing

Planet Earth III - 2160p HDR - Intro
70MB
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1T10JYo … sp=sharing

Top Boy S01E03 - 1080p - Intro  - (Ultra long panning)
31MB
https://drive.google.com/file/d/16PiODq … sp=sharing

Top Boy - 1080p - Camera Orbit
6MB
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TZiL6E … sp=sharing

Unbelievable S01E01 - 2160p HDR - Intro (Ultra long track shot)
65MB
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SWNDEi … sp=sharing

Vikings - 1080p - (Heavy Text Artifacts)
34MB
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KlDEw2 … sp=sharing

Captain America The Winter Soldier - 2160 HDR - Triskelion - (Heavy artifacts on patterns)
155MB
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XQYN6p … sp=sharing

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6 Reply by narkohol

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Chainik wrote:

narkohol

SVP repeats frames at the points where DV color data changes.
There's no way to "interpolate" DV frame colors and meta data, which can be completely different in adjacent frames even inside single scene.

Ah, damn it. I was going crazy thinking something weird was wrong with my system.

Sure there isn't any possible way to fix this? for example this isn't a problem using LosslessScaling interpolation, but of course, its quality isn't as good as RIFE and despite being perfectly smooth it shows more artifacts.

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7 Reply by narkohol

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I don't know why but I always get stutters when playing DV files with SVP RIFE, no matter the player, decoder or video renderer, and it's not because the GPU or CPU usages are maxed.
And the weird thing is that they are always in the exact same place.

For example in this little sample video ( https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nul0-B … sp=sharing ), I always get a visible stutter at 00:00:11, just at this exact place:

https://i.postimg.cc/PJqq8m0J/image.png

Can you test if this also happens to you, at this exact point, or is your playback perfectly smooth?

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8 Reply by narkohol

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r75cq wrote:

I don't know if this will work for you, but it seems like it might be the same issue, although my PotPlayer didnt need SVP to have this issue it has always had this issue.

In my case it is SVP. It happens the moment SVP gets enabled, and it goes back to normal if I close it.

Forcing the SBS mode seems to work, but SVP reporting a '1920x1080' resolution is what was worrying me. I guess it is counting just per eye? because if not there should be a noticeable difference when enabling/disabling it, and I don't see it...

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9 Reply by narkohol

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When I activate the '3D SBS option' then it looks fine, but the resolution reported is 1920x1080:

https://i.postimg.cc/T1m9MKzT/image.png

Is this correct?  is it reporting the resolution per eye instead the full resolution of the video file?

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10 Reply by narkohol

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I'm trying to use SVP on a FullSBS video (3840x1080) that I output to a 3840x2160 display mode and looks like this in PotPlayer (using 'Stretch'):

https://i.postimg.cc/66GtSBmq/image.png

But when I enable SVP RIFE the aspect ratio gets wrongly changed to this:
https://i.postimg.cc/htMBxvfy/image.png

Despite having 'Crop video frame' and 'Alter video frame size' disabled:
https://i.postimg.cc/KjnXYv65/image.png

How can I make SVP stop altering the aspect ratio?

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11 Reply by narkohol

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r75cq wrote:

I'm curious how you do the same zoom in MPC-BE to get the 45 pixel dead space between them. I may try to make a hacked version of MPC-BE that adds another mode called over-under-with-45-pixel-gap.

It didn't seem to need it with 'stretch to window' mode in the test I did yesterday with 'Winter Soldier', but if it does in any case, I think a bit of zoom would solve it like in PotPlayer.

r75cq wrote:

Also if I understand what you are saying correctly your VapourSynth is not working with MPC-BE so you can't use SVP RIFE TensorRT is that right?

It works, but it displays only one eye, not both. Same as it does in PotPlayer.

I have several versions of avisynth and vapoursynth installed, but you can easily switch between them just registering one filter or the other. Normally I use the one from SVP.

r75cq wrote:

I did some reading online and I think perhaps the 45 pixel gap can be added to MPC-BE by using a custom HSLS shader without too much difficulty.

If you know how to code that or someone that does, I guess it should be simple enough to do that kind of transformation.

r75cq wrote:

As for frame sequential, I'm guessing it probably isn't going to be possible easily with a shader (unless there is a way to force it to generate a new frame at vsync some how but I have no idea how one would do that...)

My projector also supports Frame Sequential, but I never managed to get it working with anything.

r75cq wrote:

I really wish PotPlayer was open source so I didn't need to re-invent this functionality in MPC-BE. I wonder if perhaps reshade can hook into MPC-BE or maybe I can use WibbleWobble to generate the frame sequential.

You can use ShaderGlass ( https://github.com/mausimus/ShaderGlass ) and apply Reshade to it. Sounds a bit cumbersome but maybe it works.

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12 Reply by narkohol

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r75cq wrote:

EDIT:
I think I found the original link I had read I'll post it here for completeness (it's by the same guy who would have guessed this guy is pretty rigorous in his documentation just like you).
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/playin … e.3289889/

I am Bombadil at AVSforum, the author of those posts. Still using the same NexiGo Aurora Pro 3D projector, but switched from DmitriRender to SVP RIFE, and I am using Frame Packing 3D mode now that SuperDepth3D supports that mode since a few weeks ago.

My projector only supports Full 3D in Frame Packing and Frame Sequential modes, while SBS and TaB/OU are Half resolution.

What I do to be able to use Full 3D is create a Custom Resolution in Nvidia Control Panel with these settings:

https://i.postimg.cc/CFGspZ87/image.png

So Windows gets a resolution with a proper 16:9 aspect ratio, while the Active Pixels output to the projector is the correct 1920x2205 for Frame Packing (vertically stacked 1920x1080 per eye + 45 pixels blank in-between)


r75cq wrote:

I'm curious how everyone else is actually watching 3d content without losing half the resolution by using an intermediary half-sbs or half-tab image?
Is there some tool to capture the output buffer of MPC-BE in it's full TAB and convert it to SBS or reformat it....

I'm on the same boat here.

3D MKV rips work fine. Just watched a 1920x2160 rip of 'The Avengers' yesterday  and it worked great with SVP RIFE in Frame Packing mode, just adding a little zoom to compensate for the 45 pixel blank space that made a bad effect on the top and bottom edges.

The file has these video settings:
https://i.postimg.cc/TwD79cRF/image.png

But SVP doesn't work with .iso files or untouched rips (MakeMKV) from them.

Without VapourSynth, .iso files play ok:
https://i.postimg.cc/RF8whrKn/image.png

but once VapourSynth is enabled only one eye is displayed:
https://i.postimg.cc/YjcrhRd3/image.png

I tried installing other versions of VapourSynth but they either do the same or don't even start playing.

So my solution so far is using MPC-BE with DmitriRender in Full OU format with Frame Packing mode on the projector.
I normally use PotPlayer for everything, but this combo only works at Half Resolution in PotPlayer, and crashes when using Full Resolution:
https://i.postimg.cc/nrxsWHJZ/image.png



I would love to use SVP RIFE instead, but sacrificing half the resolution is just too much. I'm already forced to downscale to 1440p to be able to maintain stable 60fps with SVP RIFE, while DmitriRender works at full 2160p resolution without problem (because no AI).

Maybe

Chainik wrote:

Chainik

can shed some light on this VapourSynth issue?

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13 Reply by narkohol

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I enable it here:

https://i.postimg.cc/P5YtjDcb/image.png

and I see it active (quality is very noticeable) and turning inactive after a few seconds. Also it shows here:

https://i.postimg.cc/C5Rg6nkq/image.png

I can see the 'Status: Active' being changed to 'Inactive' in realtime after a few seconds.

But when I quit SVP then it immediately starts working again and it says 'Status: Active' again. So it's gotta be something specific with SVP.

I tried every single possible option in PotPlayer renderer but when SVP is enabled it always does the same: SuperResolution gets disabled after a few seconds.

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14 Topic by narkohol

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Using SVP (RIFE) in PotPlayer disables Nvidia Super Resolution.

When I press play it works, then after a few seconds SVP engages and it gets disabled...    and if I close SVP then it immediately starts working again.

Is there any way to fix this?

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15 Reply by narkohol

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RickyAstle98 wrote:
reconhell wrote:

Everytime i try to use rife it shows a CMD prompt. and it loads for a very long itme but my video never plays. This hasn't changed in 2 years. not with my rtx 4090 and rtx 5090. i dont get where you guys use this for... seems totally useless im sorry.

Try to change builder_optimization_level (SVP4/rife/vsmlrt.py) (default value: 3)


RTX 4070 timing cache
Level 1 - about 30s (attachment #1)
Level 2 - about 40s (attachment #2)
Level 3 - about 1m10s (default)

Line 181
Line 1863
Line 2021

I guess these modifications are not free and make the performance a bit worse or less 'optimized'?

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16 Reply by narkohol

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Drakko01 wrote:
RickyAstle98 wrote:

[I tested RIFE x2 + LSFG 180FPS target (LSFG was updated and can generate frames without exact multipliers with consistent framepacing)!

LSFG from RIFE frames 48>180 looks almost the same as RIFE 24x7 and uses 6 times less resources!

Yeah I know, but i dont wanna pay for lsfg

LosslessScaling is the best $10 spent ever.

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17 Reply by narkohol

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Chainik wrote:

this is because you _manually_ replaced avsf/register.bat
the one installed by SVP is w/o "pause" command, obviously

Ok, but shouldn't the new installation overwrite those files then?

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18 Reply by narkohol

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Chainik wrote:

narkohol

I guess you manually updated AVSF by copying all files into SVP 4\avsf...

Maybe, I tried so much stuff I don't remember.
It works now without crashes, but maybe the installation should give some error or whatever?

The log/details say "Press any key to continue..." but it seems the user can't do that.

the installer stayed at that 97% and not even trying to Cancel worked. I had to kill the whole SVP-maintenance in the task manager.

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19 Reply by narkohol

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Chainik wrote:

please update now

My installation gets stuck at 97%:

https://i.postimg.cc/90S4YrkZ/image.png

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20 Reply by narkohol

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Same with a lot of other online videos, like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tJYN-eG1zk

Or this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMUDVMiITOU

Tried Uninstalling and reinstalling from scratch but it's the same, keep crashing.

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21 Topic by narkohol

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This video was working fine in PotPlayer until I applied last update. Now it crashes.

https://voddash-fy.atresmedia.com/vsgda … mvtime.mpd

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22 Reply by narkohol

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RickyAstle98 wrote:
narkohol wrote:
RickyAstle98 wrote:

And yes thats not real scene, thats rendered scene (across the building)!

Sure, like half the movies since many years, but that's rendered with realistic look, it's not cel shading anime.

I see a lot of movies where frame interpolation was present, with far more noticeable artefacts, because of old movie technologies, according to moviemaker friend, the RIFE was only 4 times accurate than 2006 old technology!

I think DmitriRender shows less artifacts here than any other solution I tried so far, but it has its own general problems, like artifact halos around people, which gets annoying and SVP RIFE is better at that.

Hardware MEMC is pretty good nowadays, but when there is high motion it just stops processing to avoid 'making a mess'. That prevents it from showing artifacts, but for me that smoothness unstability is more annoying than fluid motion with some artifacts.

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23 Reply by narkohol

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RickyAstle98 wrote:

And yes thats not real scene, thats rendered scene (across the building)!

Sure, like half the movies since many years, but that's rendered with realistic look, it's not cel shading anime.

They're different, but I would say SVP RIFE 4.22 Lite artifacts are fewer, lighter and more subtle than the LSFG ones.

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24 Reply by narkohol

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RickyAstle98 wrote:
narkohol wrote:

Captain America The Winter Soldier - 2160 HDR - Triskelion - (Heavy artifacts on exterior windows and interior straight line patterns)
155MB
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XQYN6p … sp=sharing

Cap America test scene, no artefacts, LSFG 3.0 x6!

You talking about using *just* LSFG? with no SVP RIFE at all?

Just tried with LSFG 3.0 x2 and x4, and certainly there are artifacts.

With SVP RIFE too, and also DmitriRender and hardware MEMC.
No solution is perfect in these areas:

https://i.postimg.cc/HxYHzrXv/image.png
https://i.postimg.cc/Hx6mhTtY/image.png

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25 Reply by narkohol

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BTW, in case somebody is interested, these are my top test scenes. The first two are specially good for testing microstuttering/judder.

Top Boy S01E03 - 1080p - Intro  - (Ultra long dolly)
31MB
https://drive.google.com/file/d/16PiODq … sp=sharing

Unbelievable S01E01 - 2160p HDR - Intro (Ultra long panning)
65MB
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SWNDEi … sp=sharing

Vikings - 1080p - (Text Artifacts)
34MB
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KlDEw2 … sp=sharing

Captain America The Winter Soldier - 2160 HDR - Triskelion - (Heavy artifacts on exterior windows and interior straight line patterns)
155MB
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XQYN6p … sp=sharing

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