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Ok thanks, for confirming :-)

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Hi guys,

SVP4 Pro installs LAV filters. Kodi DSPlayer has build in lav filters as well. I was not aware of this before so I have two versions installed. Which one will be used ? Are the SVP LAV filters required when using Kodi DSPlayer ?

Ronald

VB_SVP wrote:

Sounds good to me, I'd just stay away from the Revision 3 boards as those are the ones I've seen ppl say have issues.  I haven't heard anything bad about their UD5 boards, but I have no personal experience with them.

I bought the newer Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 R5 :-)

But now I am having video/audio freezes (svp disabled) during  playback (about 4 times during a 90 minutes movie). I will install a seperate NIC today and use that instead of integrated LAN port. Hopefully that will solve it, never had freezes before.

To clear up some misunderstanding:

I was running svp on a motherboard that turned out not to be suited for 8 core CPU (cpu throttling even when not getting hot). That is why I changed to ASRock Extreme 6 motherboard with 8+2 phase. This board is giving me booting issues (boots only 50% of the times) which I was not able to solve. Therefore I want to return the board and get another one with 8+2 phase. The Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 seems to be a good choice and I will make sure not to get a version 1.0.

I was not blaming any SVP issue on the ASRock board.

VB_SVP wrote:

I watched some of it and I didn't notice any stuttering.  I noticed some raw quick cuts (like putting on the santa mask @ ~4:45) but they're the same with SVP off.  Speaking of which, I can see why you want SVP for this one.

The "complicated" shader is considerably more processor-intensive than the "standard" shader.

But it's worth it as it is the only one that doesn't "halo" objects in motion.

My setup:
AMD FX 8350 OC'd to 4.4 Ghz (with CnQ enabled)
Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 Revision 1.0 AM3+ mobo with latest BIOS
G.Skill 2400 Mhz RAM running at 1600 Mhz (b/c Gigabyte)
Radeon R9 290 OC.

SVP 3.1.7a, 19 threads, complicated shader, weakest artifacts masking, GPU acceleration on

Ok thanks for the feedback about watching this movie on your setup!! :-)

At the moment I have issues with my new motherboard (Asrock 990FX Extreme6), I might return it and buy the Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 since it has 8+2 phase as well and works fine in your setup with FX8350 :-)

After resolving my hardware issues I will do some tests again.

Chainik wrote:

In Win 8 and later you'll get real-time frequency monitoring but in Win 7 all we have is a constant value reported by OS.

Ok, that explains why correct frequency is shown when turning off all power save features and a kind of average when they are on ^_^

I guess the conclusion might be that running SVP is not feasable on my hardware (not willing to throw even more money at it at the time) , with my display (60 Hz) and my wishes (minimizing artefacts). I am considering to stop using SVP. Not because I am disapointed, but it might simply be the most rational decision.

Nintendo Maniac 64 wrote:

The "complicated" shader is considerably more processor-intensive than the "standard" shader.

Also, what refresh rate are you outputting to?  24fps to 72Hz will be smoother and less processor-intensive than 24fps to 60Hz.

60 Hz, since my display unfortunatly does not support 72 Hz.

And yes I know complicated shader is more cpu hungry then normal shader.

Chainik wrote:

the question is meaningless w/o specifying the OS wink

Windows 7 64bit

Roberto Rossi wrote:

I have fx-8370 4.5ghz overcl.
nvidia gtx 960 as you.

I run svp with the highest settings for 72fps (screen), I have svp 4 pro, and I use variable options, that are even more demanding than highest (automatic). I can run on my 1080p tv (72hz oc.) every 1080p and 4k movie (decrease to screen (1080p)) without using even 60% cpu and 20% gpu.

Your hardware is indeed possible to watch any full hd movie!

Just.,.... do not know what can cause discrepancies since yours and my hardware is similar.

Show us the svp screen which shows cpu usage, svp index, mb, ..... which player? svp 32-bit? mpc-hc? enhanced video renderer? tell us more.

Hmmm that is strange indeed. I am using:

- kodi 16rc2 dsplayer
- svp4 32 bit (yes, GPU support enabled)
- reclock
- madvr

I'll soon make some screenshots.

It seems like kodi 16 for some reason is using more cpu resourses, using exact same settings (which does include GPU support).


I started with a decent HTPC, however in the past few months spent 800 euro extra to get SVP happy  (which it still is not  tongue) .
It helps also when I change shader back from complicated to normal, that makes this particulaer movie "watchable" and SVP index much closer to 1.

Nintendo Maniac 64 wrote:

Also tell us how the video is encoded - bit depth? codec?

It's a blu-ray movie. So bit depth must be 8 bits. I'll see if I can find more info!

I did so and indeed, then SVP reports correct CPU clock.

I did play around with that but wih no good result, I'll give it another try, thanks for mentioning! :-)

Hi,

My HTPC is not the worst setup:
Asrock 990FX Extreme 6 Motherboard (support 220W TPD CPU's)
AMD FX8350 4 GHz 8 core cpu , running stable on 4.4 Ghz
Nvidia GTX 960 graphics card

Still, it is not able to play Paranormal Activity: The Ghost dimension using SVP. (CPU not throttling, all cores running on 4.4 GHz !)
This movie is a good test voor SVP, since it is filmed using a hand camera.

Just curious if anyone is able to watch this movie using SVP without stuttering and what your setup is to make this possible?

Ronald

Using Paranormal Activity: The Ghost Dimension as test movie (SVP choking on it, despite of 4 GHz 8 core CPU) I noticed that SVP index dropw below 1 even when CPU load is about 85%. Why does this happen?

And what does it mean when the index is above 1.0 ?


Ronald

I did check, CPU was running at 4 GHz on all 8 cores.

Anyway, I guess my real question was: does this  (SVP thinking CPU is running on 2 GHz instead of 4 GHz) has any effect on SVP performance?

Hi,

In the performance monitor of SVP4 it says 2.0 GHz, while I do have an 8 core 4 GHz CPU (AMD FX8350)

Why is it reporting 2.0 GHz ?

Ronald

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Ok thanks for the info, I will  wait for the update then :-)

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Any updates on this?

Will the differences between version 4 and 3 be "fixed" ?

I am about to switch back from svp4 pro to svp 3.1.7 because of the increase of halo artefacts, but am willing to wait if I know a fix is on the way..



Ronald

MAG79 wrote:

tingtong5
why is there such a difference in black bar detection sensitivity between svp3 and svp4 ?
SVP4 has another more advanced logic of black bars detection. In some cases it works better.

Ok thanks for explaining.

Yeah I know, quite anyoing when watching on a 1:2.40 screen, I will never even notice the change. tongue

Still I think it would ne nice to have the possibility to switch between continious detection or only once.

I guess I'll try to switch on and off detection remotely (using irule on ipad).

Still I wonder, why is there such a difference in black bar detection sensitivity between svp3 and svp4 ?

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WWwhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaooooooooooooooo, did not see that. Great! Thanks!! :-)

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Hi all,

It is possible to remote control svp 4, using ip (http?) commands?

It would be really nice feature to be able to use remote control to enable/disable SVP and to switch between aspect ratio's manually.

Can't find anything about it, am I the first having a desire for this feature?

Ronald

Hi all,

I am using black bars detection, when video content has vertical black bars I want it to vertically stretch (I am watching on 1:2.40 screen using anamorphic lens).

This worked fine in svp 3. In svp 4 it works as well but seems to be more aggressive: it redetects serveral times during a movies , causing short amounts of stuttering video.

Is it possible to make black bar detection less agressive? Preferably to detect only once at the beginning of a movie?

Any ideas about this?


Thanks,

Ronald

Nintendo Maniac 64 wrote:
tingtong5 wrote:

Yes I tried custom resolutions, I did not work.

Does that include 48Hz?

Yes, I tried 48/72/120 Hz....