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Is there any interest in using SVP to interpolate cutscenes in video games? From my experience, I find it rather jarring to experience a higher framerate during gameplay to then switch to a lower framerate in a cutscene. I'm unsure if such a feature would be feasible, but it would be much appreciated.
If I want to demonstrate SVP to my friends, could I bundle MPC-HC and SVP to boot off of an external hard drive? I currently have SVP 4 Pro loaded onto my desktop computer, which isn't exactly mobile (the HAF X is a rather hefty tower).
Another idea I've considered was using my laptop to show them how SVP functions with the SVP 4 Free version, along with madVR and ReClock. However, I doubt my laptop is capable of rendering playback as smooth as my desktop can. It's a Lenovo W530 equipped with an Intel i7-3740QM, Nvidia Quadro K1000M, Intel HD Graphics 4000, and 8 GB of ram. If my laptop can't run SVP and madVR like my desktop can (but at 48 - 72 Hz), would I be better off encoding interpolated copies of my sample media files beforehand on my desktop?
Thank you, that demystified the settings a lot for me. I'll do some messing around with those settings on some profiles, and I'll update to say what works well for me.
Today I tested out a new SVP profile with a 120 Hz refresh rate, comparing a 24 fps source to a 30 fps source. The 30 fps source still experiences judder when set to a x4 (120 fps) integer ratio. Interestingly, the 24 fps source played smoothly at x5 (120 fps) and x6 (144 fps) integer ratios.
Previously I thought that the 1080p resolution was impacting SVP performance, but I think this was merely a coincidence. As it turns out, both high res and low res sources with a 24 fps framerate are playing smoothly.
Doing further digging, I found out that not all of my 30 fps sources exhibited juddering. In one comparison, I noticed that a 30 fps anime trailer juddered, but a 30 fps video game trailer did not. This leads me to believe that this judder may be caused by how some anime on the internet is encoded. Since anime is produced at 24 fps, and this source material is encoded to a constant 30 fps framerate (for some reason), I believe this causes imperfections which are masked by motion blur, but is made more obvious when frame interpolation is applied.
On another note, some of my judder consistently occurred at the same time regardless of the source, but I think I figured out the cause of that too. Usually, I have SVP OSD messages disabled, but after enabling them to troubleshoot what was going on, I found out that two judders happened at the same time as two of the SVP OSD messaged. The first judder occurred as SVP was resizing the source video, and the second occurred during black bar detection. After disabling black bar detection and frame size alteration, both of these judders stopped happening.
> > dropped frames 0
> What pan & scan judder do you see?
> The video must move flawless.
I forgot to mention that I refreshed the madVR statistic (Ctrl+r) in the middle of playback. Since the dropped frames (~20 - 35) only occurred at the beginning (due to screen resizing and black bar detection), I didn't think it was relevant to typical playback performance. Of course, I was just ignoring an underlying problem, but that's my fault.
I'm still experiencing dropped frames at the beginning of video playback (~5 - 9), but I haven't got a good explanation for why that's still happening. I think that since I have madVR set to delay playback until the render queue is full, it could be dropping frames until the queue is full. Best guess I've got so far.
All and all, I think the main cause of my judder issues were caused by poor encodes of anime. Thanks for helping me narrow it down, SVP is working much better for me now!
Throughout the entire video until the last second, the tearing line moves without jerking. However, during the last second of playback, the tearing line stopped moving as soon as the video froze.
During playback, the Ctrl-T command didn't show the tearing test line. I'm not familiar with EVR yet, but I'll try to read up on it.
The SVP tearing line did pop up during playback, but did not tear. Although, the sides of the line appeared to be blurry, not sure if that's normal or not.
Yeah, I tried the optimized settings for film and animation for their respective media, but I couldn't tell much of a difference. Granted, I've almost been using SVP exclusively for anime since I got it, and have a better eye for detail in that than I do in movies at this point.
Under the hood, what kind of settings do the film and animation optimizations influence?
Nice! I'm liking it so far, but it's a shame Asus didn't get around to that g-sync module for most of us...but I digress lol.
Most of my media is 30 fps, but some others are 24 fps, or close to it anyway.
After doing some further digging last night, I compared the playback of one of my 720p files to one of my 1080p files, and the difference in smoothness is almost night and day. Besides minor artifacts, the 720p file played just about perfectly, minus some hiccups on video startup (exclusive mode in madVR perhaps?)
If I'm noticing this much of a difference in smoothness, could the problem just be my hardware? For a sanity check, I ran SVPmark and it came back with these results:
Test summary
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Date: 2017-01-10T06:50:06
CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K @4008 MHz [8 threads]
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 [ver.376.33]
Mode: FHD + GPU [17 threads]
Overall scores
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Synthetic CPU: MC3069
Synthetic GPU: MG5296
Real-life: FG3920
Details: synthetic
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CPU: compose (single-threaded): 839
CPU: compose (multi-threaded): 3652
CPU: search (single-threaded): 662
CPU: search (multi-threaded): 2648
GPU: system -> GPU transfer: 2234
GPU: GPU -> system transfer: 2370
GPU: calculations: 6114
GPU: total score: 13079
Details: real-life /FHD
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decode video: 22.61x (542.6 fps)
48 fps - vectors search: 2.01x (96.4 fps)
60 fps - frame composition: 5.11x (306.4 fps)
48 fps - [SVP] fastest: 8.62x (413.7 fps)
48 fps - [SVP] simple 1: 6.46x (310.3 fps)
60 fps - [SVP] good: 3.48x (209.1 fps)
60 fps - [SVP] high: 2.66x (159.6 fps)
60 fps - [SVP] highest: 1.19x (71.2 fps)
72 fps - [SVP] simple 2: 5.92x (426.5 fps)
From what I can tell, the CPU seems to be performing similarly to others, but I kinda expected the GPU to perform better, but I'm just not sure, really.
Hey everyone,
I've been messing around with SVP for a few days, and have finally found a combination of settings between SVP, MPC-HC, and ReClock that is finally giving me playback without dropping frames in the middle of playback and no audio clipping at all. However but am still experiencing some video judder, and am wondering if there is a way I can fix that.
Reading around, I've heard probable causes such as mismatched framerate, bad graphics drivers, bad settings in madVR, ReClock, or SVP. Looking back through dozens of forum posts over several years, it seems to have been a hard problem to nail down. If I can get some pointers on how to further reduce, or ideally eliminate this judder, it'd be much appreciated.
The system I'm using has an Intel Core i7-6700K, NVIDIA GTX 1070, 32 GB of ram, and displaying on an ASUS VG248QE monitor. My current settings for SVP, madVR, and ReClock are included as well.
Hey everyone,
I noticed in another thread that certain SVP profile settings are more beneficial to anime, but I was curious if it would help to make an alternative profile for live action content like movies and tv shows. If so, what settings would work well for movie playback?
The system I'm using has an Intel Core i7-6700K, NVIDIA GTX 1070, 32 GB of ram, and displaying on an ASUS VG248QE monitor.
When playing videos using MPC-HC, the audio continues to play to the end, but the image last rendered freezes within the last second before playback completes. However, the player itself does not crash, nor does it freeze, this only happened to the video playback, either in fullscreen or windowed mode. Also, within this last second of playback, the seekbar icon jumps to the end, which may or may not be related. Attached is a gif of the icon skipping during playback.
I've tested .mp4 and .mkv files, but the same thing happens to both. To verify the integrity of the files, I tested them on vlc, but they worked fine there.
Is it possible that one of my settings in my SVP+madVR+ReClock setup is interfering with the video playback? Any help would be appreciated.
For reference, I've also included my SVP, madVR, and ReClock settings.
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