Problem with SVP 3.0.5 (Page 1 of 3)

Hello, dsgnethu

Continue of questions:
3. What player did you use with SVP?
4. What 1080p file? We need details about framerate and interlacing flag.

Hello!

Now I installed Catalyst 11.10 and SVP 3.0.5 again, and the situation a bit changed:

- I don't know why, but I couldn't get SVP work together with madVR. If at the installation section I choose use madVR by default, the SVP not working and cannot get working with any settings (Waiting for ffdshow video...). Even if I change the output to EVR custom, SVP not working. If at the installation I just select register madVR but leave the other option at default, SVP works (arrow changes to green when starting a video). If I change to madVR, SVP cease functioning, even if I set ffdshow video decoder at external filters with merit "prefer".
- Now, I saw at least one movie which works perfectly with SVP so thank You. Every movement are fluid and great to see the movie like this. Only a few artifacts with default settings.

But. Othert movies are still suffering from stuttering effect and SVP claims about high CPU load. I'm wondering how it could possible. I set number of threads according to Core I7 setting and OpenCL setting has a tick by default (so it uses the videocard, right?). Is my rig not enough to play all 1080p movies with all SVP options default?!

Please help what to change:)

Here are 2 text logs and 2 screenshots of 2 movies. One which is working (The Day After Tomorrow) and one which not (Crimson River).

Last processed file parameters:
Filename: The Day After Tomorrow 1080p dxva dual -Sadu.mkv
Frame size and frame rate: 1920x816 pixels, 23.976 fps

Detected monitor parameters
Screen size and refresh rate: 1920x1080 pixels, 59.997 Hz

Video smoothing info
Smooth factor: 5:2
Resulting video frame rate: 59.94 fps

Current detected profile: 1920x1080@24

Profile settings of video processing
[ExMethod=MSmoothFps_ByPixel]    Smoothness improvement: Normal
[ExAlgo=13]            SVP-shader: 13. Standard
[ExMulti=MON]            Framerate change: To screen refresh rate
[ExMiniCount=1:1]        Interpolated frames size: Full size
[ExRad=4p]            Search radius: 4 pixels
[ExSearch=4]            Search type: Hexagon
[ExPel=2]            Motion estimation accuracy: To half-pixel
[ExRecalc=0]            Recalculation of vectors: Do not recalculate
[ExBlockSize=16x16]        Blocks size: 16x16 pixels
[ExOverlap=4]            Blocks overlapping: 0.25 of block
[ExSadml=0]            Bad areas artifacts suppression: Nothing
[ExSadgamma=1]            Bad areas artifacts mask: Normal
[ExBlend=true]            Processing of scene change: Frame blending
[ExDwnResize=0]            Reduce resolution: Do not reduce
[ExConvertFps=false]        Frame blending to screen refresh-rate:false

Settings by menu
[svp_libflowgpu=1]        GPU-acceleration (OpenCL): true
[ExTreads=9]            Number of threads: 9 (Core i7)
[Borderlight=0]            Light at black borders: false
[ExStretch=0]            Frame stretch: Do not stretch
[ExCrop=-1]            Cropping: Do not crop
[VDelay=0]            Video delay: 0 ms
[ExDemo=0]            Demonstration mode: false
[ExTearingTest=0]        Tearing test: false
[EFrameDoubling=0]        Emergency framedoubling: false
[StopSmoothDelayOnRewind=1]    Smooth on rewind: Turn off by 1 sec

Last processed file parameters:
Filename: Crimson River 1080p triple (hun-eng-french).avi
Frame size and frame rate: 1920x1080 pixels, 23.976 fps

Detected monitor parameters
Screen size and refresh rate: 1920x1080 pixels, 59.997 Hz

Video smoothing info
Smooth factor: 5:2
Resulting video frame rate: 59.94 fps

Current detected profile: 1920x1080@24

Profile settings of video processing
[ExMethod=MSmoothFps_ByPixel]    Smoothness improvement: Normal
[ExAlgo=13]            SVP-shader: 13. Standard
[ExMulti=MON]            Framerate change: To screen refresh rate
[ExMiniCount=1:1]        Interpolated frames size: Full size
[ExRad=4p]            Search radius: 4 pixels
[ExSearch=4]            Search type: Hexagon
[ExPel=2]            Motion estimation accuracy: To half-pixel
[ExRecalc=0]            Recalculation of vectors: Do not recalculate
[ExBlockSize=16x16]        Blocks size: 16x16 pixels
[ExOverlap=4]            Blocks overlapping: 0.25 of block
[ExSadml=0]            Bad areas artifacts suppression: Nothing
[ExSadgamma=1]            Bad areas artifacts mask: Normal
[ExBlend=true]            Processing of scene change: Frame blending
[ExDwnResize=0]            Reduce resolution: Do not reduce
[ExConvertFps=false]        Frame blending to screen refresh-rate:false

Settings by menu
[svp_libflowgpu=1]        GPU-acceleration (OpenCL): true
[ExTreads=9]            Number of threads: 9 (Core i7)
[Borderlight=0]            Light at black borders: false
[ExStretch=0]            Frame stretch: Do not stretch
[ExCrop=-1]            Cropping: Do not crop
[VDelay=0]            Video delay: 0 ms
[ExDemo=0]            Demonstration mode: false
[ExTearingTest=0]        Tearing test: false
[EFrameDoubling=0]        Emergency framedoubling: false
[StopSmoothDelayOnRewind=1]    Smooth on rewind: Turn off by 1 sec

The performance graphs may vary, because I stopped the videos few times. On the first screenshot, I made it AFTER playing the video but it still shows what You may want to know.
The 2nd screenshot made during playing the video.

I hope You may find out what the problem is. According to the forums, some other users could experience fluid movement even with lower hardware.

Thanks.

Like I said, I use default SVP 3.0.5 installation.

SVP + Avisynth 2.5 + ffdshow + MPC-HC + Haali Media Splitter

All settings default. I did not try to modify anything, I suppose it should work without any settings on my hardware.

MAG79

I know it's not easy, to find problem in someone else's system, but then ask, or tell me what sould I do.

The W7 is well installed, all drivers are current and all software components are up to date. I do not see anything which could interfere with this thing. No other codecs and or players are installed. 'coz I hate codec packs, I always use MPC-HC which is default for SVP.

MAG79

Tricky;) The second video is MKV just renamed to AVI. Reason: that damn Cyberlink PowerDVD cannot play MKV files by default, even with Haali installed. Renaming the MKV to AVI solves the problem

On this computer (where I want to use SVP) the is no PowerDVD installed, so I'll just rename the file back, and try it again. Thanks.

But... even on the other file (which has MKV extension) the CPU usage is between 75%-99%. Is this normal with this hardware? 6970 not capable of doing this? I don't think so.

There's a problem somewhere, I just don't know where. According to forums here and other sites, if someone installs SVP on adequate hardware and do no modify default install options (like madVR or use ffdshow with DXVA), the SVP just runs fine, even with lower hardware.

Could be the reason that, the film is not 24 fps but 23.976?

According to any other measurements, my system just works fine. Experience index, games, everything. I cannot see any bottlenecks on my system.

MAG79

I'll do the first three later today. Thanks for the tips.

About the 4th: CPU load is 0 when I'm doing nothing. No any software runs constantly which "eats" CPU power. The system sits on a SSD so really no bottlenecks:) I'll do the measurements and post the results.

4. CPU load is 0 when pausing the video.

Also I can confirm. Right after installation, SVP works, but high CPU load is in effect.
After system restart, SVP cease functioning, and I could never get it working again.

What could cause this? Maybe some of the scripts doesn't know that it's a 64 bit system, and therefore directories are in "Program Files (x86)" instead of "Program Files"?

I ask about CPU Throttling. You did not say anything about it. Ok. See at the picture.

Did you pass this test and what about CPU Throttling value?
Normally it should be 0.

Only for 2 min, but I run the stability test. I think, no issue. I not experienced any stability issue, using the computer. Only SVP has some problems.
Maybe it could help to some others out there, that if they experience SVP not working just "waiting for ffdshow video...", try to re-run SVP manager as administrator (even if the current user is an administrator).
But this still not solved my problem. Maybe GPU assist simply not working somehow?

What did You read about my posted results from the SVPMark?

CPU Throttling results

Idle:

Stressed:

Lets analyze results we have got.
1. CPU Throttling is absent - good
2. SVPmark results is low - bad
3. dpclat in green zone - good
4. CPU load in idle is 0 - good

So, we need detailed information about SVPmark results ("Run" at default settings, "Save to file" and put it here) and about your hardware (for example show AIDA64 HTML report).
First, fill your profile.