MakeN PotPlayer Guide - Not Dead Yet 2021 W.I.P. (Page 3 of 21)

Maken1
Some tips about your guide

1. ffdshow, avisynth and madVR are installed by SVP's full installer

3. The lists of included profiles in PotPlayer depends on the distribution, and there's NO official English distribution (as far as I know)!
4. madVR isn't a silver bullet for "quality". It's great to upscale DVD's or 720p to FHD resolution but that's almost all it can. If one doesn't need to upscale low quality video then madVR can be just a waste of PC's resources.

Chainik
LAV will be installed with 3.1 version

you dont right!
LAV will not be installed with 3.1 version, it is only copyed in the SVP folder and will not wright in the system
For OS LAV in SVP 3.1 will not exist, and for other programs too becouse they dont find him
(under install I understand copy files and registration in the uninstall/clsid section)

Chainik
Hi, Chainik, how are you?

Yeah i did but its the same. Im thinkin once i finish my Guide, i will record a video ( i need a cam ) of my system and how it work with all of this and post it here so you and all ppls can see how this work good for me .

MAG79
hahah yeah well i just have a Sony Handycam DCR-SR45 so 480p but i will use it zoom and windows Magnifier in the most important parts to make it more clear.

Chainik i want to show you this:

1- Using the W.I.P Makens High Quality Config + EVR CP by Renderer + Nvidia drivers 285.79 and this is the result:

Death Race 2 x264 720p BDRip DTS ( see the attachment file for complete info about the movie )

        :S

2- Using the W.I.P Makens High Quality Config + madVR + Nvidia drivers 285.79 and this is the result:

3- Using the W.I.P Makens High Quality Config + EVR CP by Renderer + Nvidia drivers 285.79 + SVP + My SVPs custom profiles ( with moderated settings ) and this is the result:

This is insane          seriously, in the past i was always able to play this kind of file with old nvidia drivers.

4- Using the W.I.P Makens High Quality Config + madVR + Nvidia drivers 285.79 + SVP + My SVPs custom profiles ( with moderated settings ) and this is the result:

Much better now!!!        , no more SVPs OSD telling me LOW PERFORMANCE, no more framedrops , everything ok and smooth!!.

5- Using the W.I.P Makens High Quality Config + EVR CP by Renderer + Nvidia drivers 285.79 + SVP + My SVPs custom profiles ( with moderated settings ) and this is the result:

Transformers Revenge of the Fallen IMAX Edition x264 FullHD 1080p BDRip DTS HD MA with high video bitrate ( see the attachment file for complete info about the movie )

Horrible!!        :S imposible, in the past was almost the same even with good nvidia drivers. This movie in the past, was a pain for my pc and more in use with SVP.

6- Using the W.I.P Makens High Quality Config + madVR + Nvidia drivers 285.79 + SVP + My SVPs custom profiles ( with moderated settings ) and this is the result:

          but!!! finally now is different!!!!! btw im still watching this movie again and i cant stop it, i like this movie anyway but more now with SVP!!!! .
So again THANKS TO SVP!!!!!!!!!!!, thanks to PotPlayer, madVR, Lav Filters, etc. And to me, i was working on my overclocking for make my pc more faster, my windows more faster, find and create the best HD Playback solution for my condition and system and now there is . Something that was almost imposible in the last year, now is different .

Note: I WAS USING THE SAME CUSTOM SVP PROFILE ALL THE TIME. IT WAS NOT INSANE OR VERY HIGH SETTINGS, WAS MODERATED NOT THE GREAT THING I MEAN SOMETHING THAT ANY OF YOU WITH A BETTER SYSTEM THAN ME CAN DEAL EASY!!!!.

If i can do this with my old PC, then you that have something better than me i hope ( or i guess XD ), it will be nothing, nothing for your system.

Chainik
hahahah yeah Chainik but it work for me . All started once Nvidia released the lastest drivers , i was using EVR CP + SVP with no problem, with moderated CPU and GPU usages and some settings on the SVPs profiles, but the price in those times was the artifacts then thanks to the limitation of my system, was unable to use some settings and forced to sacrifice more smooth for less artifact with fast motions. Once i discovered madVR or lets say USE it then all change for better. All of this was the combination i did shown on my guide and some other things. I dont know if is there one file or whatever that i still not figure out, thats why i created this guide to see if this work the same for someone as it does with me.

Emm no i was not using Shaders like Sharpen complex ? , no Deband, no Picture Post-Proce, no denoise, etc. Nothing about picture post-proce on FFDSHOW, you mean that right?

you can use some picture post-procesing or filters with FFDSHOW RAW VIDEO FILTER with madVR, i mean i can enable deband, sharpen, noise and more.

I got sharpen for example from madVR.

Chainik
ohhhhhhh ok ok i understand now. No chainink, no post proce pixel shaders from potplayer was enable, i never use them, thats why i turned off in PotPlayer > Preference > Built-in Video processing filter settings > Condition = DISABLE . This to avoid that, that PotPlayer use any pixel shader, once you disable it, nothing on PotPlayer > Preference > Video section no work anymore.
If i want X pixel shader then i use ffdshow raw video filter that work perfect with EVR CP and madVR as well. But for my test all pixel shaders from FFDSHOW was DISABLE or no in-use. I got Sharpness from madVR, i use FFDSHOW RAW VIDEO FILTER for give more Color or if i want to use Deband or for Deinterlacing Interlaced material.

I will test with EVR only ( no CP ) then i will tell you how its going.

Chainik
Ok what you need me to show you on X part if is what you re saying is in use or no ?

Btw i want to comment you something apart of EVR CP, in the past before i discovered your SVP, i remember got artifacts in some parts of X video or movie, always i playback that part then was some kind of artifact in X part of the picture, then if i use for example PowerDVD v.XXXXXX with that video or movie and playback again just that part then NO ARTIFACTS. I forget to say that it was with KMPlayer, if i change the Video Renderer for example to VMR 9 Renderless or madVR then no more artifacts in that part, thats why i stopped to use EVR CP since i have this PC.

Chainik
YEs Chainik it was and its same like in your image with me. I never use something from that part even when i was using in the past KMPlayer and now with PotPlayer is the same.

Chainik
hahah come on man, sorry if i dont understand you much like you want, remember im not a pro on this like you, thats why im here to learn and asking . I just wonder if i use EVR CP then one of these got enable by default? i mean without if i go to Video, etc etc then tick one of these Pixel Shaders?. Then you say that with madVR, the potplayers pixel shaders not work and i understand that part.

Look before find this website and your amazing program, i was always using EVR CP by Renderer + CoreAVC + PotPlayer of course and old and good ones Nvidia Drivers ( drivers that you SVP Team are recommending and showing to us with true Graphics their performance comparison ). My Cpu and Gpus usage was very low, but ONCE NVIDIA release the those drivers that screwed up the OpenCL right? and then once i discovered your SVP and started to use it with PotPlayer + EVR CP by Renderer + lastest Nvidia Drivers all change to that. If i rollback to one of the Nvidia drivers recommended by you SVP Team, then i can use EVR CP + SVP + etc but i cant do that because i play games, i have this SLI, old drivers dont have the update SLI Profiles for the new games then my performance with them are very poor.   I hope you understand me now.

" Lets just admit that for extremely overclocked Core2Duo + two low-end video cards in SLI madVR is the best choice " haha and you forget to say + lastest Nvidia Drivers lol.

Chainik
Ok yeah, more with the fact that you need a powerful GPU if you want to use the best for the highes image quality. But because i said, that problem since Nvidia released those drivers, all changed to bad for me, i cant use EVR CP anymore without have those insane Gpus usages and in especial with your SVP. I discovered that madVR can help me with my problem, then thanks to it, i can use SVP again and much better than before.

Btw i want to comment you something apart of EVR CP, in the past before i discovered your SVP, i remember got artifacts in some parts of X video or movie, always i playback that part then was some kind of artifact in X part of the picture, then if i use for example PowerDVD v.XXXXXX with that video or movie and playback again just that part then NO ARTIFACTS. I forget to say that it was with KMPlayer, if i change the Video Renderer for example to VMR 9 Renderless or madVR then no more artifacts in that part, thats why i stopped to use EVR CP since i have this PC.