1 (edited by uncleTACO8873 02-09-2012 00:24:28)

Topic: SVP might have killed my Laptop but I want to know for sure.

Hello. So I got all excited to use frame interpolation on my videos. I researched and downloaded this SVP. I did work well on some videos. But soon enough one playing a video crashed the computer: everything froze. I didn't evne go to blue scree. It was just a dead freeze. I thought this was a one time thing so I ignorantly kept playing videos after rebooting my laptop. Eventually it froze again. And after rebooting my comp it started to freeze without running SVP and during every time I would try something extensive on my computer. By the next day my laptop was dead. The laptop would boot but teh screen would not turn on. Up troubleshooting with HP support, we concluded that the motherboard was dead. So I sent it in to HP where my motherboard, hard drive, memory, and processor were replaced. Now my Laptop is back and good as new. But, of course, my love for messing with videos is too much and I am still curious about this frame interpolation. But I really want to know if it truly was running SVP and frame interpolation that killed my laptop, or if my laptop was already dying and this just accelerated it. And if there's any precautions I can take where I can still run SVP but not harm my hardware, I would love some input.

My laptop specs are:
HP Pavilion DV6t Quad Edition
Intel Core i7-2820QM CPU @ 2.30GHz
6 GB memory
Radeon HD 6770m graphics card
Windows 7 64bit.

I'm sorry this is so long, I just want to explain it well. Also, for reference, the first time it froze, I was running The Hobbit HD trailer on SVP. The last time, I was playing my Inception dvd through a connected tv.
And I'm not mad at SVP in any way. I don't hold it responsible if using it killed my laptop. I blame myself for not realizing it.
Thank you for reading.

Re: SVP might have killed my Laptop but I want to know for sure.

Hello uncleTACO8873.
SVP uses CPU, memory and GPU very intensively. The view one movie with SVP is like two-hour hard stability testing (testmem86, linpack, OCCT, furmark etc.).
To use SVP your sistem must be 100% stable at full load otherwise you can get throttling, BSOD, hangs, any other errors.

Overheating while full load can lead to hardware damage. It can be any software. For example, SVP.

Re: SVP might have killed my Laptop but I want to know for sure.

Are you saying I should do one of those stability tests? Also, do you think it's worth giving SVP another shot, now that I'm more aware of my hardware usage?
Thank you for your input.

Re: SVP might have killed my Laptop but I want to know for sure.

Any laptop must have protection from overheating. If software can "kill" hardware then it is bad hardware.
I always do stability tests after buying before using.
I think you are facing with manufacturing error.

5 (edited by uncleTACO8873 02-09-2012 18:32:17)

Re: SVP might have killed my Laptop but I want to know for sure.

I'll do a stability test then. Another note: My laptop is much better now than it was before. Before it died, the boot up started to be kinda slow. And my friends suspected a virus being on it. But now it's litereally like new. Should mention that it got a full system restore during repair. Though I will do that stability test now while it is still like new. Thank you.

Re: SVP might have killed my Laptop but I want to know for sure.

uncleTACO8873
You can pass SVPmark test double or triple times at once. It is very good stability test based on SVP algorithms. wink
And it give a chance to compare performance of your sistem with another ones.

Re: SVP might have killed my Laptop but I want to know for sure.

uncleTACO8873
Well, my HP laptop is like "pro"-series (:D), but it still can't pass SVPmark at FullHD settings with GPU on.
And it's an i5m + AMD 6450 - just a half of your hardware.

Modern laptops are very low quality and are designed for just a few years of life, that's why they're so cheap.
I dunno may be in your case some capacitor on MB started to degrade because of high temp or some chip lost contact like in earlier xbox 360 models.
And may be you've just placed it on a soft surface  wink

Re: SVP might have killed my Laptop but I want to know for sure.

Ok so SVPmark will basically tell me what I can handle on my laptop? I think I will try that then.

Re: SVP might have killed my Laptop but I want to know for sure.

Chainik
I have to agree with out on laptop quality. Even my model specifically has had overheating problems with other people, especially with the quad cores like mine.
I know what you mean about soft surfaces but my laptop barely leaves its cooling pad. No big deal, just lettin you know.

Re: SVP might have killed my Laptop but I want to know for sure.

Another question. Would it be better on my hardware to do the manual Avisynth script, with K-lite, ffd, mvtools and all that? Or is it the same exact thing and won't make a difference?

Re: SVP might have killed my Laptop but I want to know for sure.

uncleTACO8873

Even my model specifically has had overheating problems with other people, especially with the quad cores like mine.

So it's a good idea to monitor actual temperature and may be to downclock the gpu (or make a custom profile in AMD Overdrive).

Would it be better on my hardware to do the manual Avisynth script, with K-lite, ffd, mvtools and all that? Or is it the same exact thing and won't make a difference?

It's the same, SVP Manager is a way to automate all that stuff.

And most of scripts in the last year are using SVP libraries, not MVTools wink

Re: SVP might have killed my Laptop but I want to know for sure.

Would it help to set SVP to low priority? And/or limit the number of processors it uses?

Re: SVP might have killed my Laptop but I want to know for sure.

low priority - no
number of processing threads - may be, but it's a wrong way
the right way is to lower settings in video profile or even turn off gpu acceleration

in my opinion the issue with

HP's  big_smile
laptops is their cooling systems can't handle both high cpu and gpu load at the same time
and i'd glad to be wrong here

Re: SVP might have killed my Laptop but I want to know for sure.

BTW, can you kill your laptop again with any CPU burner + FurMark? 
Let's try! big_smile

Re: SVP might have killed my Laptop but I want to know for sure.

Ah. Are you referring to lowering the quality of the video I play?
And to clarify, you suggested downloading AMD Overdrive to better control my gpu.

Re: SVP might have killed my Laptop but I want to know for sure.

Actually FurMark sounds like a grand idea.

Re: SVP might have killed my Laptop but I want to know for sure.

uncleTACO8873
Are you referring to lowering the quality of the video I play?

I'd say "lowering the quality of motion interpolation to lower cpu consumption".
But I believe the problem is in gpu.

you suggested downloading AMD Overdrive to better control my gpu.

If it can be controlled. AMD's "switchable graphics" is an odd thing...

Actually FurMark sounds like a grand idea.

Yeah, but with some CPU burner running in background.
If i7-2820QM has TDP 45W and 6770m has 45W then together it'll be 90W.


Anyway as was stated earlier if you can kill the laptop with some user-mode application => it's just a wrong laptop.

Re: SVP might have killed my Laptop but I want to know for sure.

I see. I guess it really all comes down to the fact that I'm still terrified of running SVP again.

Re: SVP might have killed my Laptop but I want to know for sure.

Yeah, you should probably be terrifing of running anything now roll

Re: SVP might have killed my Laptop but I want to know for sure.

SVP was the only thing I ran that made it crash. Everything else I ran on the laptop always ran fine. Games ran great. I do a lot of video editing. SVP even ran well for the time it worked, but as soon as I used it everything went downhill.

Re: SVP might have killed my Laptop but I want to know for sure.

uncleTACO8873
SVP uses at same time:
- all CPU power of all cores and threads include all extensions (MMX/SSE/AVX);
- GPU hardware acceleration to decode video (decode engine);
- GPU hardware acceleration to create new frames (OpenCL);
- GPU hardware acceleration to postprocess video (Pixel shaders);
- CPU caches and huge part of memory bandwidth to send data between CPU and GPU.

Do you know any game or video editing software that can do the same at once?! hmm

Re: SVP might have killed my Laptop but I want to know for sure.

You certainly make a good point. When I first got this program I certainly wasn't expecting it to be so resource intensive. But I'm glad I know that now.
So is this coming down to the fact that I should just leave it alone and not try SVP again?

Re: SVP might have killed my Laptop but I want to know for sure.

You think we are making "laptop killer" software? wink
No, of course.

I like smoothing effect and I can not leave it alone smile
It is incorrectly to ask developers that question about their software. hmm

Re: SVP might have killed my Laptop but I want to know for sure.

I didn't mean to say your program is a killer. If anyone is, I'm the killer for not realizing I was everexherting my laptop. It's just how I worded it.
Oh god no I have nothing against your program. I freakin love it. If I didn't like it and didn't want to use it so badly then I wouldn't have made this thread asking you guys so many questions.