plevel = 0.5

Domas4 · 30-03-2013 11:21:53

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Dear SVP team,

Can you please adjust this file

http://www.svp-team.com/files/gpl/mvtoo … .9-svp.zip

so that I can set plevel to 0.5 ? I find 0 being too smooth and 1 being too "not smooth"

Thank you very much if you do it!
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Chainik · 30-03-2013 13:20:55

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Re: plevel = 0.5

plevel is an integer value in MVTools
we won't change external interface in MVTools cause it's Fizick's job

if you want more precise plevel adjustment consider move to SVPflow libraries

Domas4 · 30-03-2013 13:43:34

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Thanks for response.
That's what I would do Chainik, if not for the artifacts in the "Holy Motors" movie scene when the guy runs on the thread mill. I have tried every lambda, lsad, plevel, search, algorithm, refinement and etc. settings to try to eliminate it, but I could not. I think your SVPflow libraries are much more flexible than original Fizick's mvtools, but I just can't eliminate those artifacts

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Or maybe I am missing something. Is there possibility to set SVP flow to mvtools2 settings? If so, I will keep trying, because I really like the adaptive method for frame interpolation.

Chainik · 30-03-2013 20:07:35

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artifacts in the "Holy Motors" movie scene when the guy runs on the thread mill. I have tried every lambda, lsad, plevel, search, algorithm, refinement and etc. settings to try to eliminate it, but I could not

You'll need to provide
- two original frames plus
- mvtools based script without artifacts plus
- svpflow based script with artifacts

for us to do something about it

Have you tried settings from SubJunk's Interframe script?

Domas4 · 31-03-2013 14:24:19

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No I havn't. Here is the link for the video.
http://depositfiles.com/files/2jog7xvse
Artifacts appear on SVP with default or non-default settings, does not matter. The strange black stripes NOTE: Just turn off the frame change detection!
If you don't, it will think the frame is changing all the time and will either repeat or blend frames, and will not do the interpolation. (Something like blocks:80, scene:10000) Also turn off adaptive mode.

My mvtools script is a bit tighter. But even when I relax the settings to get smoothness I get much less artifacts than with SVP. С Пасхой!

svp_scheduler=true
svp_cache_reduce=true
svp_flow_lib="C:\Program Files (x86)\Avisynth 2.5\plugins\libflowsse.dll"
SetMemoryMax(1280)
SetMTMode(3,5)
ffdshow_source()
SetMTMode(2)
super=MSuper(pel=2, hpad=6, vpad=6, rfilter=4)
F=MFinest(super)
back=MAnalyse(super,isb=true, overlap=4, overlapv=4, lsad=1000, lambda=4000, blksize=16,blksizev=16, search_coarse=3, plevel=1, pelsearch=2, search=3, searchparam=2, badrange=-24,badSAD=8000)
forward=MAnalyse(super,isb=false, overlap=4, overlapv=4, lsad=1000, lambda=4000, blksize=16, blksizev=16,search_coarse=3, plevel=1, pelsearch=2, search=3, searchparam=2, badrange=-24,badSAD=8000)
num2=1
den2=1
Framerate<=30 && Framerate>=29 ? Eval("""
num2=2
den2=1
""") : Framerate<=24 && Framerate>=23 ? Eval("""
num2=5
den2=2
""") : Framerate<=25 && Framerate> 24 ? Eval("""
num2=12
den2=5
""") : NOP
MSmoothFps(super, back, forward, finest=F, num=FramerateNumerator(last)*num2, den=FramerateDenominator(last)*den2, algo=13, block=false, sadgamma=0.5, sadml=160, blend=true,thSCD2=155)
SetMTMode(1)
GetMTMode(false) > 0 ? distributor() : last

MAG79 · 01-04-2013 10:41:17

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Re: plevel = 0.5

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Thanx for script and for this video sample. Good test for any frame interpolation software. Very hard.

Take a look at these comparisons.

Wave artifacts both at your script and at SVP 3.1.4.

Your script gives more frameblending area, SVP 3.1.4 gives more true interpolation area but more wave artifacts.

used SVP 3.1.4 script:

SetMemoryMax(1024)

global svp_scheduler=true
global threads=5
global svp_cache_fwd=threads+2
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\SVP 3.1.4\plugins\svpflow1.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\SVP 3.1.4\plugins\svpflow2.dll")

global super_params="{scale:{up:0},gpu:1,rc:true}"
global analyse_params="{main:{search:{coarse:{distance:-10,bad:{sad:2000}}}},refine:[{thsad:250}]}"
global smoothfps_params="{gpuid:21,rate:{num:5,den:2},algo:13,scene:{}}"

SetMTMode(3,threads)
DSS2("G:\DOWNLO~1\DOMAS4\holymo~1.mkv").ConvertToYV12
SetMTMode(2)
super=SVSuper(last, super_params)
vectors=SVAnalyse(super, analyse_params, src=last)
smooth=SVSmoothFps(last, super, vectors, smoothfps_params, mt=threads, url="www.svp-team.com")

We can adjust SVP 3.1.4 script for such hard video source. SVP 3.1.4 can blend frames too.

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Domas4 · 01-04-2013 11:44:09

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Re: plevel = 0.5

MAG79 excellent screenshots. Yes it gives a bit more blending area, so take a look at the bottom picture left corner, you can clearly see the black stripe being waved, which clearly spoils the picture when watching real time. The blending area might be reduced by setting plevel=0 in my script. I tried to do the same blending with SVP 3.14 by setting values same as in Mvtools2, but I could not get rid of those "black" waves. Anyhow, good that you guys are testing. Good luck

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Try replace in SVP 3.1.4 folder this file (override.js) from Beta-tester gaunt. He posted this file just some minutes ago. It gives no annoying wave artifacts at your sample. Try it.

Russian topic "Ideal SVP profile"

If apply this file to 5g 720p profile then you will get script like this:

SetMemoryMax(1024)

global svp_scheduler=true
global threads=5
global svp_cache_fwd=threads+2
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\SVP 3.1.4\plugins\svpflow1.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\SVP 3.1.4\plugins\svpflow2.dll")

global super_params="{scale:{up:0,down:1},gpu:1,rc:true}"
global analyse_params="{main:{search:{coarse:{distance:0,bad:{sad:1024,range:16},type:4,satd:true,trymany:true},type:4,distance:0,sort:false,satd:false},penalty:{lambda:2,plevel:1.4,lsad:6000,pnew:48,pglobal:0,pzero:48,pnbour:48,prev:48},levels:0},refine:[{thsad:250}]}"
global smoothfps_params="{gpuid:21,rate:{num:5,den:2},algo:13,scene:{limits:{m1:16000,m2:2800,scene:4500,zero:400,blocks:3},luma:1,blend:false}}"

SetMTMode(3,threads)
DSS2("G:\DOWNLO~1\DOMAS4\holymo~1.mkv").ConvertToYV12
SetMTMode(2)
super=SVSuper(last, super_params)
vectors=SVAnalyse(super, analyse_params, src=last)
smooth=SVSmoothFps(last, super, vectors, smoothfps_params, mt=threads, url="www.svp-team.com")

Script does frame repeating at hard places. To change frame repeating to frame blending use blend:true option in global smoothfps_params line.

Domas4 · 01-04-2013 13:57:41

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Well yes, but it's too aggressive. It's either on or off. Every other scene now becomes either very fluent or very "jaggy". Wish it was more "sequential". You know, not like either on (1) or off (0), but like 0, 0.2, 0.4 , 0.6, 0.8, 1 based on how aggressive the scene is.

MAG79 · 02-04-2013 14:29:41

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Domas4
It was 1 April joke sorry.
I believed too
I will continue to debug SVP script with your test video.

Domas4 · 02-04-2013 15:29:25

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So that's how you programmers joke around! Good one.

Domas4 · 25-04-2013 12:32:16

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Any progress with the "stress-test" video?

MAG79 · 27-04-2013 14:52:12

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No. Sorry.
I will return to this topic but later.

pezgui · 20-09-2013 14:30:07

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I don't know if it's against the rules to bring back old topics, but any news about this 'wave effect'?

I got better results using a dot crawl script, LUTDeCrawl.

If anyone test it someday you can copy the .avsi in the avisynth plugins page.

the code that i'm using > LUTDeCrawl(ythresh=10, cthresh=10, maxdiff=50, scnchg=25, usemaxdiff=true, mask=false)

Chainik · 20-09-2013 19:59:55

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I got better results using a dot crawl script, LUTDeCrawl.

i believe the same result should be with 13th SVP-shader
basically it does the same thing

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1 Topic by Domas4 30-03-2013 11:21:53

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4 Reply by Domas4 30-03-2013 14:28:58

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5 Reply by Chainik 30-03-2013 20:07:35

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6 Reply by Domas4 31-03-2013 14:24:19 (edited by Domas4 31-03-2013 15:39:54)

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7 Reply by MAG79 01-04-2013 10:41:17

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8 Reply by Domas4 01-04-2013 11:44:09 (edited by Domas4 01-04-2013 11:58:25)

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9 Reply by MAG79 01-04-2013 13:06:39

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10 Reply by Domas4 01-04-2013 13:57:41

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