1 Topic by Lt_Welkin (edited by Lt_Welkin 15-12-2013 07:19:59)

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Topic: Dropped Frames in Fullscreen MadVR/SVP

I get stable 59.94~fps with pretty much 0 dropped frames on playback windowed mode. However, when I switch to either fullscreen or Fullscreen Exclusive mode, I start getting 10-20 dropped frames a second. I don't enable smooth motion in madvr and I have tried using "Blend frames to screen refresh rate" but I still get massive dropped frames in any form of fullscreen.

Here is my mediainfo for the episode
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http://i.imgur.com/nwZ3Lvm.png  profiles and settings
http://i.imgur.com/yeQ1407.png  external filters

http://i.imgur.com/Sbym5wB.png madvr windowed settings
http://i.imgur.com/MrX2IG6.png  madvr trade quality for performance settings
http://i.imgur.com/2TloFOd.png  madvr general settings

Do I need to add more information regarding this matter? I really want this to work; don't understand why in windowed mode, I get 0 dropped frames but then suddenly, I get 20 dropped frames a second when I fullscreen. I've been having this problem since SVP 3.1 I think.

Edit: I have also noticed 10bit videos downgrade to 8bit if I have ffdshow raw video encoder enabled in my external filters, which is needed for SVP to function. While it is not a problem, it's just something I noticed and I'm not sure if that's supposed to happen.

2 Reply by Metagondria (edited by Metagondria 15-12-2013 12:37:40)

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Re: Dropped Frames in Fullscreen MadVR/SVP

Yes.... i confirm that too...

Unfortunately... it happend with me too today !?

Windowed mode 0 drops... fullscreen every so often dropped frame causing SVP to turn of and on which cause the inevitable STUTTER playback again  hmm

change setting in madvr like read ahead / queu framerate doesnt solve anything !!!!  Well at first i thought.. but eventually svp drops on and off again !!

And indeed the source get like downgraded to 8bit !!

Weird though why i haven't had this sooner, SVP seems to perform inconsistently !!!  One time its perfect even in fullscreen and next SVP turns on and off all the time probely to resync the whole shabbaamm..  but doing that causes microstutters again ...  just the one thing i dislike about watching movies and the reason why i use an true motion sollution !!

Could be very well be an madvr issue... because choosing custom EVR mode is even wurse !!!!   SVP chops one and off every 30 secs or so !!!

So...the renderer might have something to do with it aswell !!!



darn it.... so close to perfectioin .. yet so far ...

cherriepoopers,

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Re: Dropped Frames in Fullscreen MadVR/SVP

Lt_Welkin
10bit videos downgrade to 8bit if I have ffdshow raw video encoder enabled in my external filters
It is true. SVP can process 8bit depth video only. Any 10bit video becomes 8bit after SVP using.

I have no dropped frames in madVR fullscreen exclusive mode.
Did you disable aero in win7? Then enable it. It can help (see more details there)

You can try to change madVR exclusive mode to madVR overlay mode. To do this:
- go to madVR settings menu - rendering - general settings
- uncheck option 'enable automatic fullscreen exclusive mode'
- check option 'enable windowed overlay (Windows 7 and and newer)'
In some cases it may help.

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About framedrops and those modes:

My experience (GTX670M) so far is:

"windowed overlay" extremely reduces dropped frames for me.
while
"automatic fullscreen exclusive mode" does actually increase dropped frames for me. Only by like 20 in a 45 minutes video but its not when that mode is not active (besides that its quiet anoying how long it takes to switch between video and desktop) while the image is flickering.

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I tried all the suggestions. Double checked to make sure I'm on Aero mode, changed to windowed overlay instead of exclusive (also checked with everything unchecked), and nothing worked.

Still get that annoying 10-20fps drop every second or so in "fullscreen". Any other suggestions?

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I swear, at some point, I had madvr Exclusive mode on and  I never got a single fps drop in fullscreen (only with exclusive mode on) which made me ecstatic. Unfortunately, that was a while back and I had to do a clean install and don't remember my exact settings (it can't be too far off from these settings though -_-)

7 Reply by Metagondria (edited by Metagondria 15-12-2013 19:43:24)

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Re: Dropped Frames in Fullscreen MadVR/SVP

Hey First class Lieutenant.welkin aye...  big_smile

Iam maybe the answer to your prayers  wink

I have SOLVED my issue that is somewhat similar to yours.. ie. dropped frames... and SVP keep turning on / off inlike berserker mode ON/OFF  yikes  !!!!

I knew the settings had to be screwed up , because and i said it in my previous post... I have watched whole movies without an hickkup using SVP the first time i started to use IT...
But i might have shot myself in the BIGfoot by experimenting with different settings in mpc-hc and other external apps !!

Now... these are the steps and settings i currently use

First settup MPC-HC ← , that wos the cullprit in my case !!!

Check the filter section and check if you have the following in the exact order...  Yep the order in which you enable those external filters too (have learned it the hardway)... even though you cannot prioritize the order in mpc !! unless u delete it all again !!!!

now... check this out..

1.LAV Audio decoder
2.Lav Video Decoder ← This one... for SURE  hmm
3.FFdshow Video Decoder
4.FFDshow raw Video Filter

Done and done  big_smile

now for MadVR setting... realy that doesnt matter to me... what ever setting i choose everything just keeps playing nice with eachother  big_smile  .. the cullprit in my case where those lav decoders not beeing present and in the right order !!!

but ill post my setting anyway ..

MadVR setting


Processing: 

Decoding = unchecked all boxes
Deinterlacing = unchecked all boxes (since i use FFDshow for filtering = more filters to play with )  Also, i think if you set XX times an deinterlace filter they might conflict with eachother .. not sure .. just tryying to play safe...

Scaling Algorithms:

Chroma upscale = Jinc , 3taps, Active anti-ringing
Image Upscale = " dito " + Scale in linear light
Downscale = default (catmull-rom) for the time beeing..

Rendering General setting:

Enable Auto exclusive screen = V checked
Use seperate device for presentation = V → checked
Cpu Queu size = 22 → slightly higer 
Gpu Queu size= 14 → " dito"  :D 

Window mode setting = default

Exclusive mode settings:

Show seekbar + Delay switch + present frames in advance = V → checked
How many frames you might ask = 8  :D 
other settings beneath = default

Smooth motion is = V Checked + Always

Trade quality boxes = → All ← UNCHECKED

I have spent litteraly hours searching for the root of this phenomenon  mad  !!!!  And all i had to do is to check the external filters in the first place  roll  !!!

But then again.. The system specs are important aswell..
What is your system specs Lt. wilkens...

my KEWL system specs are:

System:

Windows 7 x64 SP1+

CPU = AMD PHENOM II x4 965be@4.0Ghz / 1.400v = 47C° Load / OCCT
Liquid-Air cooled = Kuhler 920
RAM = DDR2-800 (pc6400)
GPU = HD7950 Sapphire OC (Factory Overclocked)
SSD = Kingston KC300 / 240GB
PSU = OCZ 750 WAtt / SLI
Hobo= MA3N32-MVP Deluxe

And i can even MAX out NEAR everything in SVP and still have SMOOTH playback  big_smile
Settings such as → Complex Shader algorithm, decrease grid step and Motion vectors grid are very CPU/GPU demanding no kidding here  tongue  !! Like CPU load of between 70-80%  when everythign is maxed out  hmm .. AND THAT IS WHIT THE ADDITIONAL HELP OF my POWERFULL NEW GPU HD7950 card  !!!!!!

Else my cpu would drown probebly  roll

FTW SERIOUSLY . yEAp . tongue

Done and Done... → no more dropped frames for me nor SVP going berserk with its on/off mode !!!

OH OH .. AND BIG README EDIT THIS::  After all is said and done ... maybe good to take an BACKUP of ur SETTINGS in mpc-hc for starters ..
Cuz you mentioned earlied that you didnt quite knew for sure what the settings where back when it played just fine Lt.wilkens...


Ill sure will do...


Cheerios..
metagondria,

8 Reply by Metagondria (edited by Metagondria 15-12-2013 19:52:20)

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Fanty1972 wrote:

"automatic fullscreen exclusive mode" does actually increase dropped frames for me. Only by like 20 in a 45 minutes video but its not when that mode is not active (besides that its quiet anoying how long it takes to switch between video and desktop) while the image is flickering.


Does it realy takes that long to switch to Exlusive mode dear Fanny?

Well tell u wut... since iam in an Xmiss mode ill try and lent you a hand ... but i want it back ... MY HAND THAT IS ... and not a BACKUP of my hand .. i want the REAL THING  ... mkay  .. chortles big_smile ?


In my case the switch goes like instant ... even though Madvr setting is only after 3 secconds.. i know weird  hmm !!  But ALL THE BETTER FOR ME  lol

Maybe tampering with the launch countdown (ie 3secs) would solve your prob !!

Just wild lguessing now ... since i havent had that issue you had .. just yet !!


cheeerios ..

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Thanks for the help matagondria~

Unfortunately, I tried all combinations you recommended (I made sure to delete and re-add in order the external filters and check the appropriately)... I still get perfect 0 dropped frames in windowed mode but 10-20 dropped frames in fullscreen. SVP doesn't turn on and off (it used to a while back when I was using SVP 3.10, but the problem is only fullscreen).

I don't have a big problem in watching my anime in windowed mode... but sometimes it gets on my nerve tongue.

My system specs should be more than enough...
I have a NVIDIA GTX 560M with/2GB GDDR5 VRAM, i7, Windows 7. Using LCD 1600x900.

Yes it is a Laptop, but my friend actually helped me configure my settings perfectly in SVP 3.1 to make it so I could watch in fullscreen with 0 dropped frames and told me "Your specs are definitely more than enough" as he uses a fairly weak laptop himself. Unfortunately, he's not around my area anymore/I don't want to call him just to ask him how to playback fullscreen w/0 dropped frames...

Any other suggestions? I don't want to have to resort to turning off SVP and watching my anime in 24 fps (some CG anime are just too painful to watch in such low frames per second...)

Re: Dropped Frames in Fullscreen MadVR/SVP

Lt_Welkin
Any other suggestions?

- EVR instead of madVR ?
- try to play 60 fps source (w/o SVP) and count dropped frames
- turn off all "video enhancements" in video driver

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http://i.imgur.com/SfGD70P.jpg

I'm not sure if I have dropped frames since it looks different than with madvr's "Ctrl+J" but I actually think it doesn't stutter or drop any frames when I disable madvr.
In that case, what exactly does madvr do? What are the pros of leaving it on rather than using EVR-CP.

Also, where are the video enhancements in video driver? You mean Nvdia CUVID hardware acceleration in LAV video?

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Lt_Welkin

what exactly does madvr do?

High quality upscaling (from the video source to actual screen resolution) in the first place. But it really needs a lot of GPU and 560M could be too slow for it wink

Also, where are the video enhancements in video driver? You mean Nvdia CUVID hardware acceleration in LAV video?

I mean "video" section in NVidia control panel.

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@ lt.wilkins...

Wow... tis is an challenge indeed .. by the looks of ur system specs... only my gpu is superiour to yours .. and Gpu might be as important as cpu since SVP uses both gpu + cpu in tandem and can very demanding .. depending on which settings u use!!

Hey... Wots important toOO...  what revision of MPC-HC are u using ...  Cuz the one that comes with the SVP package is already outdated .. 1.6.xx me thinks... And the latest stable release is 1.7.1x ← this is an huge leap forward that might bring several fixes..

It fixed several issues for me atleast !!!

Else, i woudnt know what to change since i just started to use svp+mpc since an few days..

I would try my luck and do what the developers suggests...  he ought to know what is the best setting ..  He/she is the masterbrain behind this project after all  big_smile

But then again,  1 general settings is seldom the right setting for so many different hardware settups that people use !!

I bid you farewell and good luck...

cherriepoopers,
metagondria

14 Reply by Fanty1972 (edited by Fanty1972 15-12-2013 20:43:01)

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Metagondria wrote:

Does it realy takes that long to switch to Exlusive mode dear Fanny?

Its 3 seconds for me, I can read the bible in that time and write an Essay about Quantum mechanics before I can enjoy my video. And it switches between picture and blackscreen 5 times, its almost physical painfull.
Some may think I am immortal, but I am not. I dont want my time to be stolen by this. wink

Maybe tampering with the launch countdown (ie 3secs) would solve your prob !!

Good idea. But it works fine for me without it. How does the saying go? "If its not broken, dont fix it."  lol

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Fanty1972 wrote:

Its 3 seconds for me, I can read the bible in that time and write an Essay about Quantum mechanics before I can enjoy my video. And it switches between picture and blackscreen 5 times, its almost physical painfull.
Some may think I am immortal, but I am not. I dont want my time to be stolen by this. wink

SERIOUS.. leeee !?  even with the box unchecked !?  WoW...  Mine flips like instant .. not the kind of high five mad flipping mind u  cool

I wonder whats ur cpu / gpu specs !?

Though svp is great, iam not sure SVP will work just as SMOOTH on my laptop wich is just an I3 intel core + onboard gpu = shared memory  hmm  and oh yeah... errr onboard gpu shared memory  hmm  lol !!!
I hope it will... still have to config that on my flaptop!!

Fanty1972 wrote:

Good idea. But it works fine for me without it. How does the saying go? "If its not broken, dont fix it."  lol

uhuh... to the point ... however... even though if it aint broken... theres ALWAYS SOME ROOM FOR → IMPROVEMENT ← → ► smile  neutral big_smile

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So yes, I think it works fine without madvr... should I overclock my GPU and test with madvr?

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Lt_Welkin
You must to decide it yourself. madVR is good only if you watch video with upscale picture size. If you watch FullHD video on FullHD monitor then madVR do nothing with quality and picture is the same as with another renderers.

BTW madVR has settings to reduce GPU load and upscale quality. Just for weak GPUs.

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SERIOUS.. leeee !?  even with the box unchecked !?  WoW...  Mine flips like instant .. not the kind of high five mad flipping mind u  cool
I wonder whats ur cpu / gpu specs !?

http://www.gentechpc.com/images/center/slides/gentechpc_center_G75VW-3D.jpg
Overclocked GPU coreclock from 620 to 750 and memory clock from 1500 to 1650 (but only during gaming, not video)

uhuh... to the point ... however... even though if it aint broken... theres ALWAYS SOME ROOM FOR → IMPROVEMENT ← → ► smile  neutral big_smile

As I wrote in my first post, the exclusivemode doesnt improve anything to me. I have 0 dropped frames in a 45 minutes movie without "exlusivemode" and 20 dropped frames in 45 minutes with it. Ok, its already 7 when the flickering ends and the movie finaly starts....so its only 13 during the video itself.

So, I dont have any visible difference, I even have dropped frames, I get the 3 seconds delay and a disco light performance. Why would I want that?

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@lt Welkin:
Did I miss something or didnt you post your madVR SCALING settings?

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Fanty1972 wrote:

http://www.gentechpc.com/images/center/slides/gentechpc_center_G75VW-3D.jpg
Overclocked GPU coreclock from 620 to 750 and memory clock from 1500 to 1650 (but only during gaming, not video)

750mem clock ... wow not bad... even my gpu its core clock is at 950 and mem is clocked at only 1250Mhz lol

Those speeds are only 1 fraction of the equation... .. there are other factors atleast as important if not more important like  Bandwidth is very important , especialy for AA and Texture filtering imo.... and then you have the ammount of Rops/ tmu ..  on ur gpu etc... lol

So... speed is not NEARLY everything... just like it is with an CPU its → architecture rather then horsepower lol

For example, some intel processors that are half as fast as my cpu still outperform my cpu by far lol in several tasks .. lol

Fanty1972 wrote:

As I wrote in my first post, the exclusivemode doesnt improve anything to me. I have 0 dropped frames in a 45 minutes movie without "exlusivemode" and 20 dropped frames in 45 minutes with it. Ok, its already 7 when the flickering ends and the movie finaly starts....so its only 13 during the video itself.

So, I dont have any visible difference, I even have dropped frames, I get the 3 seconds delay and a disco light performance. Why would I want that?

Thats weird.... i think in my case its the other way arround... lol.... when exclusive mode is unchecked i get like very small stutter and probleby delayed.dropped frames if i woud check that again...

NO i mean, that there is always room for improvement from an developers point of view u know... and not as user ... there are only 2 options u can change as user and thats it ..lol

oh well.. my setup is finaly complete... appart from that mosquite like wave noise arround poeple i get to see sometimes.. thats more of SVP shortcumming currently then anything else... it seems that this happend because of the method that is used in SVP to serve frame interpolation i have read somewhere !!


Cheeriepoppers,
metagondira

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MAG79 wrote:

Lt_Welkin

BTW madVR has settings to reduce GPU load and upscale quality. Just for weak GPUs.

Yeah this                ↑↑ ^^ i woud experiment on...

or realy... try using different external filters... 
Seriously , i had an bad hair day when i saw my perfect working mpc+svp crawling through the frames all of sudden because of those filters missing and in the wrong order !!!

If i were u , i woud make sure everything in mpc-hc i correct.. cuz SVP usualy gets it right from the start .. not much u need to change in SVP realy ... in my experience...


good luck wilkens

cheers

22 Reply by Fanty1972 (edited by Fanty1972 16-12-2013 04:56:27)

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Those speeds are only 1 fraction of the equation... .. there are other factors atleast as important if not more important like  Bandwidth is very important , especialy for AA and Texture filtering imo.... and then you have the ammount of Rops/ tmu ..  on ur gpu etc... lol

Well, I did not ask for specs when I buyed it. I asked for fastest avaible mobile GPU, to max out gaming FPS, without buying a desktop computer, no matter the costs. And it was the fastest avaible mobile GPU when I buyed the Laptop, at least 2 or so month lol. Its however a GAMING Laptop and no "Multimedia" (Videoplayer) Laptop.

Of course its a Mobile computer. MObile computers will always be inferior to desktop computers like mobile houses are inferior to real stone houses, even very luxerious trailers cannot compete.  big_smile

Well, of course with computers there is always "Moores Law". Performance will double every 18 month (some say 2 years). Mobile mashines beeing 50% the performance of desktop mashines.... would mean... mobile mashines are 1.5 - 2 years behind desktop mashines when it comes to performance.

EDIT:
Aaaaaand, I dont have any performance problems to whine about with SVP (I actually started to think something is wrong when I watch video without it, yes... haha, but it seems the same for a computer of a working mate, so maybe its normal)

I use SVP@G4 Settings with 120 FPS, madVR with bicubic 50 scaling, blabla windowed mode, swscaler sharpening in FFDShow (limited to luma channel, old Photoshop book tip I just experimenting to transfere to video...), totaly maxed out in 3D, otherwise around 1 and (for some videos if they have a lot of noise) noisefiltering. All works fine, no glitches or frame drops.

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LOL Fanta...

You got an fine piece of hardware there .. no question about it...

Ur laptop is perhaps 10x the laptop i have... and probebly has cost as much  big_smile  ...  my Intel i3 / 2 cores but → 4 threaded ←  big_smile / HD intel graphics adapter has cost me like lil more then 300€ ...

And ofcourse... those specification iam talking about youll never will read from an flyer or hear from an shopping assistence lol...
Better yet, if you woud ask they look at you as if you are from another planet lol..

Indeed to know those kind of specifications you probbebly need the help of the WWW for research before buying something .. or install an util on the laptop that is on display and you wish to buy  and provided they allow it lol

Wow.. are you using SVP @ 4G gravity with that flaptop fanta !??

Wow i only get like 3G from SVP... but thats probebly because of my cpu aswell....  that will be my next upgrade lol...
Only ... i need atleast other Hobo (socket am3+) to upgrade to an faster cpu + DDR3 !!!

However i can still get some more juice out of my Hobo... and get as high as PHENOM II X6 T1100  tongue  ... but the price is an BIT stEEp compared to the price of the latest Amd Flagship FX-8350 from Amd hehe..
And there is the latets FX-9000 arround the corner from amd ... lol

With an horsepower of no less then 5Ghz per core X 8 ... wooping 40ghz wow... lol ... where are the day's that computers run at only 40Mhz ... ie.. DX386 lol

So i probebly will bite the bullet eventually and change my hobo + cpu + ram ... and move other usefull components allong with it to my new rig hehe..


cheerios...
metagondria

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Metagondria
It is offtopic and kind of flood. Topic is about dropped frames.
hmm

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MAG79 wrote:

Metagondria
It is offtopic and kind of flood. Topic is about dropped frames.
hmm

yezz.. my bad... i didnt meant to hijack this thread ...

Btw .. this thread has become off topic since the last 3 - 4 posts or so.... ?

But ur right... tis getting way to FAMILIAR...

.. back to topic from now... on  roll