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Topic: AviSynth & SVP clash when playing 3D movies in MPC-HC

I am having a issue with AviSynth while SVP is running while playing my 3D movies using MPC-HC  hmm

When I play one of my 3D movie files with MPC-HC & MPC-HC running, AviSynth writes some script to ffdshows Audio decoder that looks like this.

http://www.ultraimg.com/images/6WhnD.jpg

Which makes my 3D movies look like this.

http://www.ultraimg.com/images/YIEt.png

But when I  disable SVP, I can view my 3D movies properly without this script interference.

I would have to clear the script in ffdshow too get a normal 3D picture setting.

What is this  AviSynth, an do I really need it installed, I was thinking about uninstalling it!

Or.. could I just stop it from continuously writing this script to ffdshow so I could use my MPC-HC with SVP fluently?

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Re: AviSynth & SVP clash when playing 3D movies in MPC-HC

SABERWOLF
1. What hardware do you use to watch 3D? red-blue stereo glasses?
2. Show details about file processing in SVP: SPV tray menu - Information - Additional information

Re: AviSynth & SVP clash when playing 3D movies in MPC-HC

SABERWOLF
When I play one of my 3D movie files with MPC-HC & MPC-HC running, AviSynth writes some script to ffdshows Audio decoder that looks like this.

so just turn off SVP - "Settings" -> "Disable SVP"


Which makes my 3D movies look like this.

it's wrong  big_smile
probably you just need to set "Stereo mode" option in SVP to the proper value

4 Reply by SABERWOLF (edited by SABERWOLF 27-06-2014 20:25:42)

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Re: AviSynth & SVP clash when playing 3D movies in MPC-HC

MAG79 wrote:

SABERWOLF
1. What hardware do you use to watch 3D? red-blue stereo glasses?
2. Show details about file processing in SVP: SPV tray menu - Information - Additional information

I am using red/cyan anaglyph glasses to view said movies

Here is SPV tray menu - Information - Additional

Last processed file parameters:
Filename: GoTMKK72wb264.linksfu.com.mkv
Frame size and frame rate: 1280x544 pixels, 23.999 fps

Detected screen parameters
Screen size and refresh rate: 1280x720 pixels, 59.998 Hz

Video smoothing info
Smooth factor: 5:2
Resulting video frame rate: 59.997 fps
Repeat 1 frame every 17 min

Selected profile: 1280x720@24

Profile settings of video processing
[ExMethod=MSmoothFps_3]        Frames interpolation mode: Adaptive (default)
[ExAlgo=13]            SVP shader: 13. Standard (default)
[ExMulti=MON]            Target frame rate: To screen refresh rate (default)
[ExBlockSize=16x16:2]        Motion vectors grid: 12 px. Average 2 (default)
[ExRecalc=250:0]        Decrease grid step: By two with global refinemen
[TypeDist=Exh:-10:SATD]        Search radius: Average (default)
[ExPel=2]            Motion vectors precision: Half pixel (default)
[Badsad=2000:-24]        Wide search: Strongest
[ExSadml=0]            Artifacts masking: Disabled (default)
[ExBlend=false]            Processing of scene changes: Repeat frame (default)
[ExDwnResize=0]            Decrease frame size: Disabled (default)

Settings by menu
[svp_libflowgpu=1]        GPU-acceleration (OpenCL): true
[ExThreads=0]            Processing threads: Auto
[StereoMode=0]            Stereo mode (3D): Plain 2D
[AutoCrop=1]            Auto crop black bars: true [0:0:0:0]
[HandCrop=None]            Frame crop: Disabled
[Borderlight=None]        Outer lighting: Disabled
[VDelay=0]            Video delay: 0 ms
[ExDemo=0]            Demonstration mode: false
[ExTearingTest=0]        Tearing test: false
[StopSmoothDelayOnRewind=1]    Turn off on seek: Turn off by 1 sec

Like I said.. a script gets wriiten into AviSynth which I would have to clear, which turns the screen that Red an Greenish colour.

It's not even viewable at all with my red/cyan anaglyph glasses, an again, yet when I turn off SVP I am view the movie in 3D with no problem with my glasses.

I've also check the stero mode (3D) area in SVP stting, but that does not appear to help at all.

Chainik wrote:

so just turn off SVP - "Settings" -> "Disable SVP"


Which makes my 3D movies look like this.

it's wrong  big_smile
probably you just need to set "Stereo mode" option in SVP to the proper value

SVP makes the 3D vids look even better, I used SVP an MPC-HC to watch 3D movies on my previous PC build, problem is I did not set the SVP --> MPC-HC configuration on my last build, a friend did it.

Now on this new PC build said friend is no longer in sigth, an I am on my own while setting this up.

But I have know for the two of them to play flawlessly in the past.



Thanx in advance smile

Re: AviSynth & SVP clash when playing 3D movies in MPC-HC

[messed up]

1. The script in the Avisynth section - is SVP's script. If you turn SVP off - the script will be off.
I really don't understand why you ever need to clear the text.

2. "Red an Greenish colors" are from whatever-you-use-to-make-it-anaglyph. What is it? Some pixel shader in MPC-HC or what?

3. I've downloaded "The Monkey King" mentioned in the first post (exactly the same file) and it looks fine in 3D version, including anaglyph in Stereoscopic Player.

So the main question is how you make it anaglyph in MPC-HC?

6 Reply by SABERWOLF (edited by SABERWOLF 29-06-2014 18:11:10)

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Re: AviSynth & SVP clash when playing 3D movies in MPC-HC

Chainik

SRRY for the late reply  sad

HERE is a UPDATE

I just notice today, being I have a PC monitor and a 42inch flat screen TV running dually on my GFX card, that I don't get that red/blue split screen effect when I drag MPC-HC player to my 1920X 1080p PC monitor.

Movie plays flawlessly without me having to tamper with AviSynth at all

http://www.ultraimg.com/images/2HUfP.jpg

But as soon as I drag the player back too my TV monitor I get that red/blue effect

http://www.ultraimg.com/images/Z5osh.jpg

And I have to clear the script to get the 3D movie to run like it should.

Interesting? hmm

I don't think you can disable this script?

SVP harasses you if you try to disable AviSynth.

So the main question is how you make it anaglyph in MPC-HC?

You open MPC-HC with your 3D movie running

An go to External Filters, an then you add the 3dtv.at Stereo Transformation filter, set the filter too Prefer, then hit Apply an OK.

http://www.ultraimg.com/images/bLX5g.jpg

Now close exit MPC-HC completely an reopen your 3D movie of choice, now you will probably get a Black screen in MPC-HC, but you will hear audio.

That's OK!

Now what you do is, Right Click on your MPC-HC player black screen, select Filters then select 3dtv.at Stereo Transformation

http://www.ultraimg.com/images/A86h.jpg

Now the only TABS you would have to deal with are the Input TAB/Output TAB/ an Option TAB

http://www.ultraimg.com/images/cXmi.jpg

Input TAB = Select your movie source Over Under/Side&Side

Output TAB = Select your color an dimension

Option TAB = Allows you to flip your movie vertically or horizontally

Click OK an Apply, now rewind your movie back to the beginning, an your 3D should be set

A side note: Once you are done watching said 3D movie an you would like to watch a 2D movie, go back too filters an set the 3dtv.at Stereo Transformation filter to Merit instead of Prefer, now close out MPC-HC an start your 2D movie.

You will have to toggle the 3dtv.at Stereo Transformation filter on/off between watching your 2D an 3D movies  wink

I hoped this helped   cool

Offtopic Question  big_smile

What are the best Red/Cyan 3D viewing glasses in your opinion?

The ones that I have are plastic an cheap, an I think the lens are too dark

I heard a lot of people are buying these glasses cause they are great in quality?

Hear great reviews on them.

http://www.ultimate3dheaven.com/an3danrgl.html

What glasses do you use?

Re: AviSynth & SVP clash when playing 3D movies in MPC-HC

SABERWOLF

and here's the answer  big_smile

you have "decrease frame size" in SVP's profile set to "to screen size"
when you're watching 1080p on the TV - 1080p video is resizing to match TV's resolution

it's not a problem UNLESS you have 3dtv filter in the chain, cause this filter can't handle picture size changes correctly


so, just don't use any features that can change frame size (auto resizing, cropping and auto cropping, black borders filling) with 3dtv filter (including Stereoscopic / NV 3D Vision players)

8 Reply by SABERWOLF (edited by SABERWOLF 01-07-2014 22:44:05)

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Re: AviSynth & SVP clash when playing 3D movies in MPC-HC

Chainik

You kinda went over my head there with all your smooth talk about filters  big_smile

I think I forgot o point out, I am a super newb at all this filtering stuff, but I seem to be getting the hang of it, in a sense  lol

Here is my profile settings

http://www.ultraimg.com/images/hDPRk.jpg

I think you may have to take me by the hand on this one  lol

Did I mention that I love SVP  wink

Here is a off topic question: I was searching through the download page an I saw this thing called SVPLight,  I just glance over it.

From what little I did read, this SVPLight is just for TV hardware an has nothing to do with adjusting lighting in the SVP player it's self... right?

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Where the pictres in this thread? roll

Please attach pictures to this forum, do NOT use other image hostings.

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MAG79 wrote:

SABERWOLF
Where the pictres in this thread? roll

Please attach pictures to this forum, do NOT use other image hostings.

The image host that I used for the pics is a little twitchy today, they might be doing some server maintenance.

Looks like the pics are up now smile

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I see only icons instead of pictures

Re: AviSynth & SVP clash when playing 3D movies in MPC-HC

SABERWOLF
Here is my profile settings

this's a different profile  big_smile
your Monkey King is 1080p so set "dicrease frame size" to "disabled" in the corresponding profile

Re: AviSynth & SVP clash when playing 3D movies in MPC-HC

SABERWOLF
this SVPLight is just for TV hardware an has nothing to do with adjusting lighting in the SVP player it's self... right?

yep

14 Reply by SABERWOLF (edited by SABERWOLF 13-07-2014 21:38:25)

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Re: AviSynth & SVP clash when playing 3D movies in MPC-HC

Chainik wrote:

SABERWOLF
Here is my profile settings

this's a different profile  big_smile
your Monkey King is 1080p so set "dicrease frame size" to "disabled" in the corresponding profile

Apologizes smile


This is my 1080p with Monkey King running

http://i.imgur.com/aCITu2z.jpg

You know what!!! you are a freaking genious!!

By setting Decreased Frame Size: Disabled eliminated that problem instead of having it at it's defualt settings of (Decreased Frame Size: Too fit screen) , no more Red/Green split screen on my Flat screen while watching 3D movies now!!

But now having the setting at Decreased Frame Size: Disabled now produces a (svp performance is too low) error message on some of the quality movies that I play  tongue 

Which is also a script being written too AviSynth which I also would have too clear

I will tell you one thing this AviSynth is a pain in the ass, you just can't win either way  yikes

So I guess I have to go back into SVP profile settings at reset  Decreased Frame Size back too ( Too fit screen) when I experience this problem.

Ooooh well!!!!

Atleast this will spare me the hassle of having to constantly open ffshow an clear in the script from AviSynth when watching my 3D movies. smile

Thanx Chainik!! you were very helpful wink