1 (edited by tobindax 23-02-2015 11:12:44)

Topic: [FIXED] Problem with hanging

Often the the player getting stuck for several seconds or hanging when used in conjunction with madVR, especially when skipping back. Any idea how to remedy it? Radeon 6570M on a Windows 8.1 (or 8) 64.

edit: Basically an mpc-hc hang happens very regularly when I skip more than once every 1-2 seconds on a big file (e.g. a movie) and SVP is on.

edit: madvr might or might not be related

FIXED: http://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopic … 950#p46950

Re: [FIXED] Problem with hanging

From madvr's author: "No idea, I'm sorry. Are you sure it's not an issue with SVP?"

Re: [FIXED] Problem with hanging

tobindax
Do you see any hanging when SVP is off?

Re: [FIXED] Problem with hanging

You know what? It may be related to seeking, it probably goes away on very small videos, e.g. a trailer.

..I'll see if it 'hangs' with it off (I was thinking instead of hanging, it may be seeking, then I again I had seen it hang for several minutes, so it's probably a real hang sometimes).

Re: [FIXED] Problem with hanging

tobindax
I had seen it hang for several minutes
It is too much. Abnormal behavior.

Did you try:
1. to minimize some settings in SVP profile window to lower CPU load?
2. to select in SVP menu: Turn off on seek - Don't turn off?

6 (edited by tobindax 15-02-2015 15:54:07)

Re: [FIXED] Problem with hanging

Hi. This problem persists even on a new computer. And it goes away on mpc-be (a fork)!

It appears to happen on big files (e.g. movies) but not small clips. (cache related?)

I tried a few settings around and it seems to keep it unaffected.


edit: Basically it happens very regularly when I skip back or forward more than once every 1-2 seconds

edit: SVP off of course stops the problem

Re: [FIXED] Problem with hanging

ah, it does become better with the "turn on and off quickly" option on seek.

8 (edited by James D 15-02-2015 18:13:48)

Re: [FIXED] Problem with hanging

Me too have a problem. It is like trying to play 2 different parts of video at once mixing frames from previous and next parts. Right?
I noticed this since last couple weeks. I noticed that this sometimes may proceed even if I disable SVP.

I believe it has something with ffdshow decoder. I tried to lower cached frames there but only when I completely disable ffdshow raw filter I can finally seek ahead and back without hanging. But obviously I have no SVP then:(

Re: [FIXED] Problem with hanging

AviSynth is the component that is very unstable. SVP comes with AviSynth 2.5.8 MT.

If you installing AviSynth 2.6 MT, 90% of seeking freezes will be gone. However, memory usage will also go up.

It's important to use a MT version of AviSynth.

http://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2316

Re: [FIXED] Problem with hanging

Yeah, I did experience it too.

What I do is, whether to wait for SVP turned on after seeking or set the "turn off on seek" to higher value and seeking as fast possible before SVP turned on.
I usually seeking using shortcut-key too, (Ctrl+arrow or Shift+arrow).

But nowadays, I can seek it very quickly too without player crashing, (with "turn off by 1 second").
I forgot what setting that I did, or I'm not sure whether it's because I replaced the avisynth.dll with Chainik provided in another thread. Or whether it's because I update the k-lite.

Re: [FIXED] Problem with hanging

Mystery wrote:

AviSynth is the component that is very unstable. SVP comes with AviSynth 2.5.8 MT.

If you installing AviSynth 2.6 MT, 90% of seeking freezes will be gone. However, memory usage will also go up.

It's important to use a MT version of AviSynth.

http://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2316

Thanks I'll look into that. I had heard of mt versions before being related..

PS. mpc-be did not fix it after all.

12 (edited by tobindax 23-02-2015 11:17:05)

Re: [FIXED] Problem with hanging

tobindax wrote:
Mystery wrote:

AviSynth is the component that is very unstable. SVP comes with AviSynth 2.5.8 MT.

If you installing AviSynth 2.6 MT, 90% of seeking freezes will be gone. However, memory usage will also go up.

It's important to use a MT version of AviSynth.

http://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2316

Thanks I'll look into that. I had heard of mt versions before being related..

PS. mpc-be did not fix it after all.


This works great so far! I used the "turn on and off quickly" option in svp to avoid some frames being mixed up when seeking.

I used this avisynth (latest): http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=148782

PS. It seems it's not about mt support per se, but about the bug fixes. The version I had had mt commands already.

post in avisynth mt's doom9 thread: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p … ost1710830

Re: [FIXED] Problem with hanging

2015.02.20 version is amazing. No hanging/crashing for me too. Memory usage is fine too. 1.95 GB ram for 1080p video.

14 (edited by tobindax 25-02-2015 12:31:08)

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