51 Reply by dlr5668 (edited by dlr5668 18-04-2015 14:31:17)

Re: New version of SVP?

deleted (crashes sometimes, need more tests)

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Re: New version of SVP?

Chainik
you may want to set internal ffdshow buffers to some larger values (20 frames for example) for AVS+ to work correctly

Maybe but I don't know how on ffdshow RAW filter. When double clicking ffdshow icon and go to Avisynth it resets any number next time I launch player.
Anyway, I guess with AVS+ I experience those crash on seek. mad You could ask what was made in AVS 2.58> 2.6 that that bug was gone so the same commit would be in the AVS+.

53 Reply by dlr5668 (edited by dlr5668 18-04-2015 19:29:37)

Re: New version of SVP?

I build avs+ with max optimization, intel x15 compiler, last sources. https://mega.co.nz/#!ggQzHIQC!8y473pi-Y … E8zGInvmTc
1. Replace js in svp folder
http://puu.sh/hitNl/e52441d22f.png
2. Copy avs+ dll to player folder
http://puu.sh/hitLv/ab1bdf08ae.png
3. Update svpflow files http://www.svp-team.com/files/gpl/svpflow-1.1.13.zip
http://puu.sh/hitDR/d064cc2ff5.png
4. Restart svp
Try it guys. Works fine on my end (15 threads). No crashes with seek.

54 Reply by Mystery (edited by Mystery 18-04-2015 19:42:30)

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Re: New version of SVP?

Your version takes 1.4MB instead of 1.1MB and it crashes on my computer (Intel i7 quadcore CPU)

The AVS version posted previous works. Memory usage about 1GB.

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Re: New version of SVP?

Yeah, it just crashes.

Re: New version of SVP?

James D
Yeah, it just crashes.
too many optimization options. It runs fine on my i5. I will build with standart /Ox one

57 Reply by MistahBonzai (edited by MistahBonzai 18-04-2015 20:54:19)

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Re: New version of SVP?

Standard SVP install has been working trouble free. With your changes I get instant crash on my i7-3770 (quad core - 3.4GHz) , HD 7850 and win7 64 bit.  With MPC-BE(x86) and HC(x86) with 4GB patch. SVP 3.1.6.1052 with 4GB patch. Appears to be AviSynth.dll related. Was already up to date with svpflow*.dll. Looking forward to a vanilla AviSynth.dll build.

Re: New version of SVP?

James D
dlr5668

The issue about ffdshow buffers is fixed in the latest AVS+ commit on github.
In fact that commit is extremely essential for SVP but it wasn't "officially" released yet.

Re: New version of SVP?

Chainik
In fact that commit is extremely essential for SVP but it wasn't "officially" released yet.

this one https://github.com/AviSynth/AviSynthPlu … b155534cb3 ?

Re: New version of SVP?

I have this fix in "my" build
http://puu.sh/hiEu0/5fd694c3b6.png

btw uploaded avs+ with less agressive optimize settings https://mega.co.nz/#!YgpG0aSL!7mksBRpYA … gE4nYXV7qo Should work now. Too bad I have only one PC and cant test it properly big_smile
http://puu.sh/hiEBc/c32ba21cca.png
http://puu.sh/hiEDB/d66da32f3b.png

Re: New version of SVP?

dlr5668
this one

yep

62 Reply by James D (edited by James D 18-04-2015 23:01:28)

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Re: New version of SVP?

Chainik

The issue about ffdshow buffers is fixed in the latest AVS+ commit on github. In fact that commit is extremely essential for SVP but it wasn't "officially" released yet.

I bet I already have it for 2 days because it's called ffdshowfix and v. 1780 tongue
https://cloud.pados.hu/index.php/s/0e0d … 11731699b6

63 Reply by MistahBonzai (edited by MistahBonzai 18-04-2015 23:57:02)

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Re: New version of SVP?

FWIW: Using the latest instructions for x86 and the r1825 AviSynth.dll provided by dlr5668 I still get an immediate crash with MPC-HC (x86) however substituting the  r1780 AviSynth.dll provided by James D (ffdshow-fix) works (after throwing an invalid script error).  CPU usage drops 8-10% (from ~50% to ~42% with 1080p/24fps file) with my set-up. I haven't exercised MPC-HC much (no seeking) but at least I have I know I have a valid path(s). Of Course it's 32bit while 64bit is where my head is at  big_smile

Edit: Performance appears to be the same - I usually run SVP via my own scripts in ffdshow raw video via AviSynth support and was comparing apples to oranges. So the AVS+ AviSynth.dll yields about the same performance as the 'old' 2.6MT AviSynth.dll - unless it's latching onto another overlooked AviSynth.dll.

64 Reply by dlr5668 (edited by dlr5668 18-04-2015 23:43:10)

Re: New version of SVP?

MistahBonzai
r1825 AviSynth.dll provided by dlr566
did u test this version too https://mega.co.nz/#!YgpG0aSL!7mksBRpYA … gE4nYXV7qo ?

65 Reply by MistahBonzai (edited by MistahBonzai 19-04-2015 00:08:21)

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Re: New version of SVP?

dlr5668 wrote:

MistahBonzai
r1825 AviSynth.dll provided by dlr566
did u test this version too https://mega.co.nz/#!YgpG0aSL!7mksBRpYA … gE4nYXV7qo ?

Yup, that's the one I just tested prior to the latest (r1780) from James D. Perhaps the difference between or CPUs is an issue.  When choosing a DLL I go for the vanilla Win7 build as I've run into issues (not unlike this one) with using ones optimized for processor specific support routines.

BTW: What's a good utility for verifying the AviSynth.dll being used? I most likely already have it but I got so many 'tools' I've lost track... sad

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Re: New version of SVP?

MistahBonzai
BTW: What's a good utility for verifying the AviSynth.dll being used? I most likely already have it but I got so many 'tools' I've lost track...

copy right one to player folder. It will have maximum priority

67 Reply by MistahBonzai (edited by MistahBonzai 19-04-2015 01:08:16)

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Re: New version of SVP?

dlr5668 wrote:

copy right one to player folder. It will have maximum priority

Yup, that's what I've been doing (per your instructions).  By habit I use the appropriate 'system' folders to keep track of them but in this case I used the player folder (with the _player.exe) and left the previous ones in the 'system' folders. From experience I offer that overlooked AviSynth.dll files can leave ya chasing your tail.

Well all right! time for 64-bit cool

Re: New version of SVP?

MistahBonzai
What's a good utility for verifying the AviSynth.dll being used?

upcoming SVP release big_smile

time for 64-bit

- you don't need it  big_smile
- current build of AVS+ x64 have some vital issues with ffdshow x64

69 Reply by dlr5668 (edited by dlr5668 19-04-2015 22:53:04)

Re: New version of SVP?

Chainik
upcoming SVP release

it should be done 03/04 big_smile
http://puu.sh/hjQnO/2d7405bb57.png

http://puu.sh/hjV9B/8fbfe7a3ef.jpg 63% average load new libs+avs vs 100% with original setup (all dropped frames are from testing seek crash)

70 Reply by James D (edited by James D 20-04-2015 01:34:23)

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Re: New version of SVP?

dlr5668
all dropped frames are from testing seek crash

Should be no seek crash with Avisynth 2.6, but seek crash exists with AVS+ sad
No choppy playback with AVS+ but choppy playback exists on some types of video, possibly due to auto threads count, on Avisynth 2.6.
Avisynth 2.5 is old and have crashes on seek too.
And ffdshow never been updated since? September last year? I guess only if clsid improves ffdshow and AVS devs merge all bugfixes we will get fully stable SVP.

71 Reply by voice (edited by voice 20-04-2015 10:23:59)

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Re: New version of SVP?

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ffdshow is already dead. There are no active developers and there haasn't been any serious development in years.

Of course, it will always remain available in its current form.
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72 Reply by Nintendo Maniac 64 (edited by Nintendo Maniac 64 24-04-2015 20:50:22)

Re: New version of SVP?

So uh... just how much more performance will this new version of SVP have?  The only daily reason I have my CPU overclocked is for SVP, so I've been stability-testing some lower-overclock settings during this recent wave of cold air in the NorthEastern US and summer hasn't hit yet, but I am unsure just how much I can lower my clockrate without also lowering my SVP settings...

Currently I run my Pentium G3258 at 3.9GHz @ +0.007v and that gives me ~90% CPU utilization in SVP for a typical intensive use-case of mine, and so far I've fully stability-tested 3.8GHz @ -0.026v, 3.7GHz @ -0.049v, and 3.6GHz @ -0.063v.

Re: New version of SVP?

Nintendo Maniac 64
just how much more performance will this new version of SVP have? 

reading doom9 forums can give some clues  big_smile

Re: New version of SVP?

You said that LAVfilter optimizations don't count. tongue (besides, I'm already using trunk LAV builds)

Or are you implying that there's an actual SVP thread on Doom9...?

Re: New version of SVP?

do I really need to reply this?  big_smile