Topic: What to expect from R3 1200 + 1050 Ti

Hey Guys,

I'm planning to build a "kinda" decent little HTPC. After testing SVP several times on my main machine I thought it's time to grab some money and upgrade from the old RPI3...

So the question is now, because its really hard to find some real benchmarks about SVP and different components, are the following parts enough and what can I expect:

- Ryzen R3 1200 --- I know there is Intels G4560, but Ryzen is more future proof i guess. How much does SVP profit from 4 real cores vs 2 real 2 HT.
- 1050 Ti --- maybe the passive one. 1060s are currently
- 8 GB 2400 or 3000 Ram --- does ram speed matters in SVP, especially on a R3.


How will the performance be like?

- 1080p 24 Hz to 60 Hz --- should be working fine

- 1080p 24 Hz to 60 Hz with some picture enhancements (MadVR) --- I have a reference to an old GT630 which is still used in another HTPC with some MadVR Settings. How much does the higher framerate comes in places? Is it 1:1 comparison? Having MadVR working with 24 Hz and then with 60 Hz means 1.5 times more power needed?

- 1080p 24 Hz x265 to 60 Hz --- should be the same experience like x264 right? CPU and GPU can decode x265 natively.

- 1080p 24 Hz to 60 Hz x265 with some picture enhancements (MadVR) --- haven't any experience with that, so maybe you can give me some. Any difference when using x265 and MadVR vs x264.

- 4k 24 Hz to 60 Hz 10 Bit and so on --- don't know either anything about that, but for the future I would like to know some details pls.

My own conclusion would be. Depending on how far I use MadVR all 1080p files should be good to go (even x265?). I'm just a bit curious building it and then in one year 4k drops in my home and I can exchange my just 1 year old GPU again.

I'm planning on max 400 Eur which kinda works with those components.

Regards.

Re: What to expect from R3 1200 + 1050 Ti

Ryzen R3 1200 --- I know there is Intels G4560, but Ryzen is more future proof i guess. How much does SVP profit from 4 real cores vs 2 real 2 HT.

Something like this (based on SVPmark scores from overclockers.ru Ryzen 1200 review):

Ryzen 1200 = 2081
G4560 = 1324
i5 7600K = 2800
Ryzen 1400 = 2461
i7 7700K = 3064
Ryzen 1600X = 3811


If you want 4K then you probably should think about Ryzen 1600... it can be very cold after adjusting voltages manually.

Re: What to expect from R3 1200 + 1050 Ti

Oh okay on one side the gap between the G4560 and R3 1200 is indeed quite big, on the other side - 4k is really that demanding? Ryzen 1600 because of the extra cores or more GHz?

Btw thanks for SVPmark. Didn't know there is a benchmark for SVP.

Re: What to expect from R3 1200 + 1050 Ti

4k is 4x more demanding

Re: What to expect from R3 1200 + 1050 Ti

4k is 4x more demanding

let's say 3 times

Re: What to expect from R3 1200 + 1050 Ti

You can overclock + undervolt 1060 card to around 60W max too. Great for HTPC

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7 Reply by Anim8 (edited by Anim8 25-09-2017 07:59:25)

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Re: What to expect from R3 1200 + 1050 Ti

Piet1702 wrote:

- 1080p 24 Hz to 60 Hz with some picture enhancements (MadVR) --- I have a reference to an old GT630 which is still used in another HTPC with some MadVR Settings. How much does the higher framerate comes in places? Is it 1:1 comparison? Having MadVR working with 24 Hz and then with 60 Hz means 1.5 times more power needed?

MadVR relies on the GPU pretty much. As you increase the frame rate the less time your PC(GPU) has for rendering each frame.

Press Crlt+J in the media player to bring up the MadVR OSD.
Look at the average/max stats -> rendering X.XXms

1000ms = 1 second

At 24fps you get 1000ms/24fps = 41.67ms of time to render each frame.
At 30fps you get 1000ms/30fps = 33.33ms of time to render each frame.
At 60fps you get 1000ms/60fps = 16.67ms of time to render each frame.

You want the rendering time to be lower than 16ms with 60fps playback or you will be dropping frames, which you don't want.
So you are correct that it needs more GPU power to lower the time it takes to render each frame.
It depends on the MadVR settings you use, as different algorithms will take more or less time to process.

Just a quick note, when looking at the MadVR rendering times make sure you are full-screen and not in a 1:1 window/scale. As no up-scaling will occur if none is required, which will lower rendering times hugely.

Re: What to expect from R3 1200 + 1050 Ti

Thanks for the Input so far.

The MadVR calculation makes sense. The more frames you got the less time the card has to produce the image.

Now I have to decide between the Ryzen 1200 or 1600 and between an 1050 Ti or 1060. The better CPU would give me more headroom for 4k, the better GPU more headroom for MadVR.

9 Reply by Anim8 (edited by Anim8 25-09-2017 08:50:37)

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Re: What to expect from R3 1200 + 1050 Ti

Piet1702 wrote:

Now I have to decide between the Ryzen 1200 or 1600 and between an 1050 Ti or 1060. The better CPU would give me more headroom for 4k, the better GPU more headroom for MadVR.

If your looking at 4k video with SVP the 1600 would manage far better and would go for that. For reference, I have a 6700k and it struggles with 4k content at times.

As for the GPU that's up to you, I would think both should be enough for SVP.
MadVR on the other hand, doesn't matter what GPU you get MadVR will be able to max it out, but you may want to check what sort of up-scaling the 1050 Ti and the 1060 is capable of with MadVR and what settings you want to use. The faster rendering times is especially helpful when combining with SVP but you ultimately adjust/limit your settings to work with what you get as the sky is the limit.