1 Topic by djones (edited by djones 25-12-2018 07:45:40)

Topic: Minimum GPU for smooth 4K60: 1080Ti vs 1070 vs 1060

I'm curious about the cheapest Nvidia GPU that still supports SVP at 4K60. My 1080Ti was obviously perfect, then I tried 1070 and that worked fine, now I'm on a 1060 and that seems to work fine. Is it my imagination or do these GPU's all provide the same GPU acceleration for SVP? Or are there quality settings that can be cranked higher for 1070 and 1080Ti?

Edit: CPU is Intel i5-8600k

Re: Minimum GPU for smooth 4K60: 1080Ti vs 1070 vs 1060

SVP primarily uses your CPU to do motion interpolation, not your GPU. So if you have for example an i9 9900K, you probably won't notice the difference whether you use a GTX1060,1070,1080, Ti, or RTX 2080 Ti for GPU Acceleration.

3 Reply by djones (edited by djones 25-12-2018 07:37:06)

Re: Minimum GPU for smooth 4K60: 1080Ti vs 1070 vs 1060

Interesting. I have an 8600k (6 core) @ 4.8GHz.

What I have noticed is that *some* type of dedicated GPU seems to be needed for SVP @ 4K60, because if I remove the Nvidia card and set SVP to use Intel 630 iGPU for hardware acceleration, it's not powerful enough and 4K stutters.

Re: Minimum GPU for smooth 4K60: 1080Ti vs 1070 vs 1060

Even a laptop's Radeon M370 is enough...

>  is that *some* type of dedicated GPU seems to be needed for SVP @ 4K60

Yeah, this's true.
Intel's IGP is not always enough even for simple 60 fps rendering (w/o frame interpolation) with a bicubic resizer.

> SVP primarily uses your CPU to do motion interpolation, not your GPU

True, but even the slowest GPU offloads up to 1/2 of the frame interpolation work.

5 Reply by otic (edited by otic 08-06-2019 08:41:11)

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Re: Minimum GPU for smooth 4K60: 1080Ti vs 1070 vs 1060

Blackfyre wrote:

... if you have for example an i9 9900K, you probably won't notice the difference whether you use a GTX1060,1070,1080, Ti, or RTX 2080 Ti for GPU Acceleration.


is i9 9900k enough for 4K 60 fps on stock settings?

I'm planning to upgrade, but prefere laptop with i9 9900K (only Clevo brand can do it) where OC cannot be achived due to thermal problems OR go with desktop solution and do OC'ing staff....

Re: Minimum GPU for smooth 4K60: 1080Ti vs 1070 vs 1060

is i9 9900k enough for 4K 60 fps on stock settings?

Yes.

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is i9 9900k enough for 4K 60 fps on stock settings?

Yes.

you mean, even bitrate over 50 Mb/s for example? Sorry for being such complainer but when I got i7  6700k, was sure it would stay with me for years..., until I met SVP big_smile

Re: Minimum GPU for smooth 4K60: 1080Ti vs 1070 vs 1060

I can only say that Ryzen 7 @3.5 is enough. Which means even 8700 is good too.

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all right, thanks smile

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otic wrote:

all right, thanks smile

sorry, one more thing:/
could you please tell me what are cpu loads while playback 4k with 59,940 frc?

it would be helpful for me to predict how loud laptop could behave....

Re: Minimum GPU for smooth 4K60: 1080Ti vs 1070 vs 1060

from 10% with low settings in MPC-HC to 70% playing HDR in 10-bit in mpv wink <=== this's Ryzen 7

in fact, I can play 4K/h.264 in MPC-HC on my laptop (6820HQ). it only lacks HEVC hw decoder...

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you have ryzen 7 2700?

13 Reply by otic (edited by otic 05-08-2019 19:34:38)

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Re: Minimum GPU for smooth 4K60: 1080Ti vs 1070 vs 1060

back to my hardware question, VLC with HDR- i9 9900k can deal with it?;)

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Re: Minimum GPU for smooth 4K60: 1080Ti vs 1070 vs 1060

not sure... you'd better wait for the next build of VLC plugin
it's not about raw CPU power

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I’ve just noticed that AMD Ryzen 9 3900X come out, is SVP prefere to use some Intel or Amd architecture? When I look at the benchmarks, what parameters I should consider then ( multithreding, video en/decoding)? I was decided to i9 9900K but Amd Ryzen 3900x will be better choice now?

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Re: Minimum GPU for smooth 4K60: 1080Ti vs 1070 vs 1060

otic wrote:

I’ve just noticed that AMD Ryzen 9 3900X come out, is SVP prefere to use some Intel or Amd architecture? When I look at the benchmarks, what parameters I should consider then ( multithreding, video en/decoding)? I was decided to i9 9900K but Amd Ryzen 3900x will be better choice now?

ryzen 5 1700 is more than enough, so ryzen 9 3900X is overkill

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ryzen 5 1700 is more than enough, so ryzen 9 3900X is overkill


even for FRC to 59,940 FPS, 4K 10 bit, HDR content?

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otic wrote:
dlr5668 wrote:

ryzen 5 1700 is more than enough, so ryzen 9 3900X is overkill

even for FRC to 59,940 FPS, 4K 10 bit, HDR content?

yes and chainik tested as well "from 10% with low settings in MPC-HC to 70% playing HDR in 10-bit in mpv"

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let's say I'm gonna build a PC with i.e. Ryzen 3900x, should I stick with GTX 1070 (to save up some $) OR is it worth to go with some RTXs? I mean if I had so much power from CPU, would I get some benefit from Nvidia Optical FLow technology?


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oops, sorry, now I found the answer in this topic:https://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=5504