2,301 Reply by flowreen91 (edited by flowreen91 12-03-2025 00:40:10)

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Drakko01 wrote:

maybe I doing something wrong

Most common issue i saw it has is that it does not detect the app's correct FPS
So if u play a 24 fps video with 2x, it should say 24/48 if it detects correctly how many frames that app is running with.
If it says 144/288 means it detects your monitor hz instead. xD
Ways to fix it is to install it directly from steam, close some overlay apps that might interfere with it, or set this in Nvidia Control Panel: https://gyazo.com/63bf77412bcc01e6dcb246143514105d
Or disable the extra monitors if u're multi monitors setup.

2,302 Reply by RickyAstle98 (edited by RickyAstle98 12-03-2025 06:06:34)

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Drakko01 wrote:

Any combination I try with LSFG +Rife its not given me better viewing experiences  that Rife x3 or x4 on my tv, maybe I doing something wrong or some setting/program or parameter in my config its interfering.

Looks like LSFG doesnt capture your frames properly, enable Draw FPS and you will see (captured frames / displayed frames) for example!

If you see 120/120 means LSFG detects your monitor refresh rate instead!

Close overlays like Steam, Discord, NVIDIA, everything!

Open video through mpv and press F (to go fullscreen) then Ctrl+Alt+S hotkey!

The behavior might look like > 48 / 120 (RIFE x2 for example)

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2,303 Reply by RickyAstle98 (edited by RickyAstle98 12-03-2025 06:13:41)

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narkohol wrote:
Drakko01 wrote:
RickyAstle98 wrote:

[I tested RIFE x2 + LSFG 180FPS target (LSFG was updated and can generate frames without exact multipliers with consistent framepacing)!

LSFG from RIFE frames 48>180 looks almost the same as RIFE 24x7 and uses 6 times less resources!

Yeah I know, but i dont wanna pay for lsfg

LosslessScaling is the best $10 spent ever.

LS is the best $3 spent ever!

2,304 Reply by testowe07 (edited by testowe07 12-03-2025 18:50:59)

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Hi, does SVP team plan to support AMD MiGraphX acceleration in RIFE AI?

2,305 Reply by Drakko01 (edited by Drakko01 12-03-2025 20:37:20)

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Thanks RickyAstle98/flowreen91  for your recommendations. Its none of that, the app capture fine the frames , enable Draw FPS its the first I do at the start of testing and its ok.

Close overlays like Steam, Discord, NVIDIA,  I never test something with overlays open!

I don't use Mpv, don't liked

The source problem, as I mentioned its hardware related, I think the tv accept better via Gsync compatible and VRR the 72fps or 96 fps of rife x3 and x4, the settings of the picture giving by RickyAstle98 give similar result but still  I prefer  Rife x3 /x4

I'm using windows 11 24h2 , mpcvr testing version, not the vapoursynth of svp, many variables to tweak and try

But again thanks both, I really enjoy testing others option to improve my viewing experience, and some many time through time rewatching movies or clip  I remember how we started and how far we've come today.

Many time thanks to this thread

2,306 Reply by RickyAstle98 (edited by RickyAstle98 13-03-2025 09:16:23)

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Drakko01 wrote:

Thanks RickyAstle98/flowreen91  for your recommendations. Its none of that, the app capture fine the frames , enable Draw FPS its the first I do at the start of testing and its ok.

Close overlays like Steam, Discord, NVIDIA,  I never test something with overlays open!

I don't use Mpv, don't liked

The source problem, as I mentioned its hardware related, I think the tv accept better via Gsync compatible and VRR the 72fps or 96 fps of rife x3 and x4, the settings of the picture giving by RickyAstle98 give similar result but still  I prefer  Rife x3 /x4

I'm using windows 11 24h2 , mpcvr testing version, not the vapoursynth of svp, many variables to tweak and try

But again thanks both, I really enjoy testing others option to improve my viewing experience, and some many time through time rewatching movies or clip  I remember how we started and how far we've come today.

Many time thanks to this thread

Well, you prefer less compatible video player, my 180Hz GSync monitor works great, no matter what multipliers, targets being set!
I dont recomend RIFE x2.5 (24>60) then LSFG x2 because you will see scene transitions more often, since one half the frame being reprojected twice!

About TV VRR window, man thats just TV without LFC/SFD algorithms, which means LSFG will capture frames with JIT delays!
Anyway thanks for your testing, prefer RIFE x3 too, dont see any obvious for GPU cook, since LSFG paired w/RIFE frames allows super high refresh rate conversions with tiny amount of difference!

Abount tiny amount of difference, ofcourse LSFG is bad from 24FPS conversion, but from RIFEd 48/72 - works/looks 4 times better!

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RickyAstle98 wrote:

Well, you prefer less compatible video player, my 180Hz GSync monitor works great, no matter what multipliers, targets being set!
I dont recomend RIFE x2.5 (24>60) then LSFG x2 because you will see scene transitions more often, since one half the frame being reprojected twice!

About TV VRR window, man thats just TV without LFC/SFD algorithms, which means LSFG will capture frames with JIT delays!
Anyway thanks for your testing, prefer RIFE x3 too, dont see any obvious for GPU cook, since LSFG paired w/RIFE frames allows super high refresh rate conversions with tiny amount of difference!

About tiny amount of difference, of course LSFG is bad from 24FPS conversion, but from RIFEd 48/72 - works/looks 4 times better!

I understand what you saying and I don't refute that a 180hz Gsync monitor can do much better than my tv at any multipliers. But I don't have monitors in my setup.

About Rife x2.5 I concur . whit the settings you suggested i try Rife x2+Lsfg 120hz and Rife x3 Lsfg 120hz

And for a more compatible video player. MPV for me is exactly the opposite, very jerky and stuttering playback .Maybe I change something and made mpv works like that. I really don't know.

If you have a way and time to tested mpv on a similar tv. Your recommendations will be appreciated.

2,308 Reply by RickyAstle98 (edited by RickyAstle98 15-03-2025 15:38:08)

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Drakko01 wrote:
RickyAstle98 wrote:

Well, you prefer less compatible video player, my 180Hz GSync monitor works great, no matter what multipliers, targets being set!
I dont recomend RIFE x2.5 (24>60) then LSFG x2 because you will see scene transitions more often, since one half the frame being reprojected twice!

About TV VRR window, man thats just TV without LFC/SFD algorithms, which means LSFG will capture frames with JIT delays!
Anyway thanks for your testing, prefer RIFE x3 too, dont see any obvious for GPU cook, since LSFG paired w/RIFE frames allows super high refresh rate conversions with tiny amount of difference!

About tiny amount of difference, of course LSFG is bad from 24FPS conversion, but from RIFEd 48/72 - works/looks 4 times better!

I understand what you saying and I don't refute that a 180hz Gsync monitor can do much better than my tv at any multipliers. But I don't have monitors in my setup.

About Rife x2.5 I concur . whit the settings you suggested i try Rife x2+Lsfg 120hz and Rife x3 Lsfg 120hz

And for a more compatible video player. MPV for me is exactly the opposite, very jerky and stuttering playback .Maybe I change something and made mpv works like that. I really don't know.

If you have a way and time to tested mpv on a similar tv. Your recommendations will be appreciated.

About RIFE x2.5 - with float factors, LSFG generates 0.5th frame twice, thats why you will see scene transitions more often, thats not recomendation!

I dont have any jerk/stutter playback with MPV player, maybe you break something, perhaps! I dont have compatible TV for test, sorry!

2,309 Reply by Chainik

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BTW, anyone have problems with Windows 11? hmm

Like, playing 4K video without SVP at all (!!) - RTX 4070 GPU usage is from 60% up to "not watchable"
Playing exactly the same video with all the same settings (player, renderer, etc.) in Windows 10 22H2 - RTX 2060 (!!) GPU usage is <30%

WTF?

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just discovered that RTX 4070 rig is running at x1 PCI-E mode for an unknown reason
probably this is the problem

2,310 Reply by Honza

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Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

RTX 4070 Super, Win 11 24H2.
MPC HC, RIFE 4.26 v2, no MadVR.

4K 10-bit video / 50 FPS to 60 FPS, MPC-HC and GPU usage ~30% with 40W power consumption running passive ~42C.

1920*1080 / 50 FPS to upscale to 4K / 60 FPS  GPU usage ~70% with 140-150W power consumption.


I started using SVP on Win11, so don't know about how would Win10 behave.
But once I got rid of MadVR and started 4K 10-bit HDR both at source and output, I get excellent colors and low GPU usage even with latest RIFE models.

2,311 Reply by AutumQueen92 (edited by AutumQueen92 19-03-2025 14:21:04)

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Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

Hello, I've recently gotten a 4060ti 8gb to replace my 2060s and RIFE seems to play anime quite well at 1080p x2=48fps. It looked amazing, but it really puts a heavy load on the GPU.

Are there any settings or files that anyone has tried that reduces workload?
I used the rife_v4.26 from releases in https://github.com/AmusementClub/vs-mlr … nal-models but nothing seemed to improve.

Settings are:
NVIDIA TensorRT
2 GPU threads
AI model: 4.26
Performance boost: Disabled and Enabled didn't change anything
Scene change: SVP motion vectors
Processing of scene changes: Repeat frame
Duplicate frames removal: Do not remove

2,312 Reply by RickyAstle98 (edited by RickyAstle98 19-03-2025 14:50:59)

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AutumQueen92 wrote:

Hello, I've recently gotten a 4060ti 8gb to replace my 2060s and RIFE seems to play anime quite well at 1080p x2=48fps. It looked amazing, but it really puts a heavy load on the GPU.

Are there any settings or files that anyone has tried that reduces workload?
I used the rife_v4.26 from releases in https://github.com/AmusementClub/vs-mlr … nal-models but nothing seemed to improve.

Settings are:
NVIDIA TensorRT
2 GPU threads
AI model: 4.26
Performance boost: Disabled and Enabled didn't change anything
Scene change: SVP motion vectors
Processing of scene changes: Repeat frame
Duplicate frames removal: Do not remove

I recomend to use 4.9v2 legacy modes, always good for any type of movies, except VERY fast paced action, then 4.10+ and lite models!

The V2 models usually 15% faster than V1 models!

Also 4.26 about 1.3x more demanding than 4.9v2 (4070)

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RickyAstle98 wrote:

Dont use 4.20+ models since 4.9v2 legacy model always good for any type of movies, except VERY fast paced action, then 4.10+ and lite models!

The v2 models usually 15% faster than V1 models!

4.26 is about 1.4x demanding than 4.9v2 (4070)

Thanks for replying. Are all the release files already v2? I don't see any file named 4.9v2

2,314 Reply by RickyAstle98 (edited by RickyAstle98 19-03-2025 18:44:16)

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AutumQueen92 wrote:
RickyAstle98 wrote:

I recomend to use 4.9v2 legacy modes, always good for any type of movies, except VERY fast paced action, then 4.10+ and lite models!

The V2 models usually 15% faster than V1 models!

Also 4.26 about 1.3x more demanding than 4.9v2 (4070)

Thanks for replying. Are all the release files already v2? I don't see any file named 4.9v2

https://github.com/AmusementClub/vs-mlr … e_v2_v4.7z

All other releases have different folders, rife and rife_v2 for example!

As 4070 user, I always recomend V2 models, SIGNIFICANT increase in transcoding speeds - realtime improvement!

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RickyAstle98 wrote:

https://github.com/AmusementClub/vs-mlr … e_v2_v4.7z

All other releases have different folders, rife and rife_v2 for example!

As 4070 user, I always recomend V2 models, SIGNIFICANT increase in transcoding speeds - realtime improvement!


Thanks, the 4.10 was really smooth but GPU couldn't sustain it at x3 > 72fps.
Going to look around as well and maybe update my old override script.
GPU still at full speed but at least I can use 72fps consistently now.

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Everytime i try to use rife it shows a CMD prompt. and it loads for a very long itme but my video never plays. This hasn't changed in 2 years. not with my rtx 4090 and rtx 5090. i dont get where you guys use this for... seems totally useless im sorry.

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reconhell wrote:

Everytime i try to use rife it shows a CMD prompt. and it loads for a very long itme but my video never plays. This hasn't changed in 2 years. not with my rtx 4090 and rtx 5090. i dont get where you guys use this for... seems totally useless im sorry.

long time? i wait only 1 minute for the first time i use a new model for a new resolution.

2,318 Reply by RickyAstle98 (edited by RickyAstle98 25-03-2025 19:30:37)

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reconhell wrote:

Everytime i try to use rife it shows a CMD prompt. and it loads for a very long itme but my video never plays. This hasn't changed in 2 years. not with my rtx 4090 and rtx 5090. i dont get where you guys use this for... seems totally useless im sorry.

Try to change builder_optimization_level (SVP4/rife/vsmlrt.py) (default value: 3)


RTX 4070 timing cache
Level 1 - about 30s (attachment #1)
Level 2 - about 40s (attachment #2)
Level 3 - about 1m10s (default)

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noctis4329 wrote:
reconhell wrote:

Everytime i try to use rife it shows a CMD prompt. and it loads for a very long itme but my video never plays. This hasn't changed in 2 years. not with my rtx 4090 and rtx 5090. i dont get where you guys use this for... seems totally useless im sorry.

long time? i wait only 1 minute for the first time i use a new model for a new resolution.

I can wait however long but it aint changing anything

2,320 Reply by Drakko01 (edited by Drakko01 26-03-2025 01:05:59)

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reconhell wrote:
noctis4329 wrote:
reconhell wrote:

Everytime i try to use rife it shows a CMD prompt. and it loads for a very long itme but my video never plays. This hasn't changed in 2 years. not with my rtx 4090 and rtx 5090. i dont get where you guys use this for... seems totally useless im sorry.

long time? i wait only 1 minute for the first time i use a new model for a new resolution.

I can wait however long but it aint changing anything

The problem its that something broke/change or missing in your installation, its not how Rife behave. Like noctis4329 and RickyAstle98 mentioned, the cmd its a normal action and take 1 minute then save and play , next time for that same resolution its not triggered

And for many of us , not using Rife isn't a option.

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RickyAstle98 wrote:
reconhell wrote:

Everytime i try to use rife it shows a CMD prompt. and it loads for a very long itme but my video never plays. This hasn't changed in 2 years. not with my rtx 4090 and rtx 5090. i dont get where you guys use this for... seems totally useless im sorry.

Try to change builder_optimization_level (SVP4/rife/vsmlrt.py) (default value: 3)


RTX 4070 timing cache
Level 1 - about 30s (attachment #1)
Level 2 - about 40s (attachment #2)
Level 3 - about 1m10s (default)

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I guess these modifications are not free and make the performance a bit worse or less 'optimized'?

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narkohol wrote:
RickyAstle98 wrote:
reconhell wrote:

Everytime i try to use rife it shows a CMD prompt. and it loads for a very long itme but my video never plays. This hasn't changed in 2 years. not with my rtx 4090 and rtx 5090. i dont get where you guys use this for... seems totally useless im sorry.

Try to change builder_optimization_level (SVP4/rife/vsmlrt.py) (default value: 3)


RTX 4070 timing cache
Level 1 - about 30s (attachment #1)
Level 2 - about 40s (attachment #2)
Level 3 - about 1m10s (default)

Line 181
Line 1863
Line 2021

I guess these modifications are not free and make the performance a bit worse or less 'optimized'?

±1.5%

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Drakko01 wrote:
reconhell wrote:
noctis4329 wrote:

long time? i wait only 1 minute for the first time i use a new model for a new resolution.

I can wait however long but it aint changing anything

The problem its that something broke/change or missing in your installation, its not how Rife behave. Like noctis4329 and RickyAstle98 mentioned, the cmd its a normal action and take 1 minute then save and play , next time for that same resolution its not triggered

And for many of us , not using Rife isn't a option.

My installation is fine. Don't just say things. I have tried many times across many installations across mutiple OS installations. There is not much to it. It just doesn't work.
The moment i turn on RIFE. the video freezes. I see some text in CMD. and then soon enough no more new text, and just left with freezing video. or a video that just plays extremely slow at 0.1 fps
It's a garbage feature honestly. If in 2 years it can't even work once normally. I wish it did though, because im curious why everyone is on this.
And I really don't get how it is "working" for others. But yeah for me Big nope sad

2,324 Reply by dawkinscm (edited by dawkinscm 27-03-2025 12:35:52)

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reconhell wrote:
Drakko01 wrote:
reconhell wrote:

I can wait however long but it aint changing anything

The problem its that something broke/change or missing in your installation, its not how Rife behave. Like noctis4329 and RickyAstle98 mentioned, the cmd its a normal action and take 1 minute then save and play , next time for that same resolution its not triggered

And for many of us , not using Rife isn't a option.

My installation is fine. Don't just say things. I have tried many times across many installations across mutiple OS installations. There is not much to it. It just doesn't work.
The moment i turn on RIFE. the video freezes. I see some text in CMD. and then soon enough no more new text, and just left with freezing video. or a video that just plays extremely slow at 0.1 fps
It's a garbage feature honestly. If in 2 years it can't even work once normally. I wish it did though, because im curious why everyone is on this.
And I really don't get how it is "working" for others. But yeah for me Big nope sad

The Text in CMD is supposed to happen, but depending on your GPU it can take some time to complete. With a 3080 on previous models it took up to 5 minutes, but with a 4080 and later models it's usually around 3 minutes at most. Once it's complete the text will go away and the video will start up again. So if you are having problems with a 5090 and assuming that your CPU is not under powered causing a GPU bottleneck ? Then the problem is 100% something you are doing (or not doing) because we've been using SVP+Rife for years with much, much lesser GPUs.

2,325 Reply by Xenocyde (edited by Xenocyde 27-03-2025 12:48:40)

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reconhell wrote:

My installation is fine. Don't just say things. I have tried many times across many installations across mutiple OS installations. There is not much to it. It just doesn't work.
The moment i turn on RIFE. the video freezes. I see some text in CMD. and then soon enough no more new text, and just left with freezing video. or a video that just plays extremely slow at 0.1 fps
It's a garbage feature honestly. If in 2 years it can't even work once normally. I wish it did though, because im curious why everyone is on this.
And I really don't get how it is "working" for others. But yeah for me Big nope sad

Problem is 100% on your side. Maybe missing latest python, pytourch, TRT, or something related.