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Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

reconhell wrote:

My installation is fine. Don't just say things. I have tried many times across many installations across mutiple OS installations.[...]It's a garbage feature honestly. If in 2 years it can't even work once normally.

This "garbage feature" is working fine here for years. The problem is 100% on your side.

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@Chainik
I've tried so many settings with RIFE and I would happily say that your SVP algo is better than any RIFE version.
Reclock + SVP tuned algos + AMD GPU + highly tuned PC, blows out any RIFE setting/version.
Sure you can say that is more "fluid" is "smoother" with RIFE but you can really tell and feel that's fake interpolated multilayered smushy stuff.
SVP algos just feel the movie as it is intended to be and this is coming from a guy that tested all of that with a 5090, not some cheap nvidia GPU.

Chainik, you just created some piece of art with your SVP. Combine that with such low processing power required. It's a clear winner under all aspects for me.

Thank you for your work and dedication.

2,328 Reply by Drakko01 (edited by Drakko01 27-03-2025 22:52:48)

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reconhell wrote:

My installation is fine. Don't just say things. I have tried many times across many installations across mutiple OS installations. There is not much to it. It just doesn't work.
The moment i turn on RIFE. the video freezes. I see some text in CMD. and then soon enough no more new text, and just left with freezing video. or a video that just plays extremely slow at 0.1 fps
It's a garbage feature honestly. If in 2 years it can't even work once normally. I wish it did though, because im curious why everyone is on this.
And I really don't get how it is "working" for others. But yeah for me Big nope sad

Ok, fair enough, I said your installation broke/change or missing something and maybe isn't , if you are 100% sure that your installation is ok, I would try find what's causing the problem outside the program, this entire thread has been using rife with many different setups since been implemented and came across with a variety of problems, some so inexplicable that none can reproduced to check.

I don't say just this to discredit you , quite the opposite. Your exact problem happened to me (don't recall exactly the reason but I will look for it ,to try  help you).

One time a windows update broke Svp for me, bang my head try to fixed and the next windows update fix it, in other a bad driver from NVidia make my playback choppy.

I say sincerely, the majority here try to help , like all forum you may find useless post only to brag or talk his absolute truth.

Can you do something like this maybe we can sorted out the problem https://imgur.com/a/VHVCvBZ and one more thing in the path that the builder say the engine file its created , can you check if its actually saved or not

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Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

Drakko01 wrote:
reconhell wrote:

My installation is fine. Don't just say things. I have tried many times across many installations across mutiple OS installations. There is not much to it. It just doesn't work.
The moment i turn on RIFE. the video freezes. I see some text in CMD. and then soon enough no more new text, and just left with freezing video. or a video that just plays extremely slow at 0.1 fps
It's a garbage feature honestly. If in 2 years it can't even work once normally. I wish it did though, because im curious why everyone is on this.
And I really don't get how it is "working" for others. But yeah for me Big nope sad

Ok, fair enough, I said your installation broke/change or missing something and maybe isn't , if you are 100% sure that your installation is ok, I would try find what's causing the problem outside the program, this entire thread has been using rife with many different setups since been implemented and came across with a variety of problems, some so inexplicable that none can reproduced to check.

I don't say just this to discredit you , quite the opposite. Your exact problem happened to me (don't recall exactly the reason but I will look for it ,to try  help you).

One time a windows update broke Svp for me, bang my head try to fixed and the next windows update fix it, in other a bad driver from NVidia make my playback choppy.

I say sincerely, the majority here try to help , like all forum you may find useless post only to brag or talk his absolute truth.

Can you do something like this maybe we can sorted out the problem https://imgur.com/a/VHVCvBZ and one more thing in the path that the builder say the engine file its created , can you check if its actually saved or not

I tested a little bit more and i think probably the issue lies in the source files used for playback maybe? in some shorter videos it does work. But for many many of my source files it just doesn't.
Thanks for your helpful attitude. I just haven't much luck with the feature yet. And i think it is a bit simpistic to say the problem lies on my side, i mean to a point there maybe some truth to that but, i think it is just the nature of the feature itself that it is quite wonky, hit or miss etc. atleast as far as I can see for now...
Ill test maybe more later.

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Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

On a 24fps video, there is not difference between 'to screen' and 'x6 framerate' right? Since my monitor is 144hz.
I can reliably hit that framerate when my 1080p videos are downscaled to 720p first via SVP

2,331 Reply by RickyAstle98 (edited by RickyAstle98 04-04-2025 16:00:02)

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AutumQueen92 wrote:

On a 24fps video, there is not difference between 'to screen' and 'x6 framerate' right? Since my monitor is 144hz.
I can reliably hit that framerate when my 1080p videos are downscaled to 720p first via SVP

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2,332 Reply by SeppoIisakki (edited by SeppoIisakki 04-04-2025 15:57:40)

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Does the SVP app support multiple videos at same time?

In other words, can I get it to simultaneously increase multiple playing video's FPS to ie. 120fps?

But when I open a new MPC-HC player the video smoothing "jumps" to the newly opened player, and previously opened video's FPS drops down back to default.

I'm on Windows 11. Otherwise it seems to work well, better than Lossless Scaling on Steam, which does not work at all in windowed mode.

E: Got the RIFE AI working too, uses around 200W of GPU power. Regular mode uses 60-70W without RIFE.

2,333 Reply by RickyAstle98 (edited by RickyAstle98 04-04-2025 16:04:17)

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SeppoIisakki wrote:

Does the SVP app support multiple videos at same time?

In other words, can I get it to simultaneously increase multiple playing video's FPS to ie. 120fps?

But when I open a new MPC-HC player the video smoothing "jumps" to the newly opened player, and previously opened video's FPS drops down back to default.

I'm on Windows 11. Otherwise it seems to work well, better than Lossless Scaling on Steam, which does not work at all in windowed mode.

E: Got the RIFE AI working too, uses around 200W of GPU power. Regular mode uses 60-70W without RIFE.

What means Lossless Scaling does not work at all in windowed mode?

Im Windows 10 and LS works perfectly well, even with RIFE combination!

I use RIFE x3 + LSFG (refresh rate) target, looks awesome!

The SVP doesnt support multiple instances, atleast RIFE workloads cannot be divided!

2,334 Reply by Sach (edited by Sach 04-04-2025 16:12:18)

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Hello everyone,

I'm using Rife v25v2 TensorRt with scene change SVP Motion vector

I'm looking at the advanced settings of the software, all settings, it's been 3 months that I test several settings in a manual way directly, the options in the basic UI are really not sufficient, with the image comparison method I find that the image jerks despite having tested 50 different values.



So I wanted to know about the SVP motion vector method  in the all parameters tab, what are the best values to set to avoid artifacts between scene changes?



It's a pity there's no Discord because chatting on the forum is really hell for this kind of question.



and please don't tell me that the values in the drop-down menu directly in the profile are enough, because by exploring several softwares that don't work in real time there are so many options that you can modify with Rife and also use more efficient scene change methods, or use CVPR2023- A Dynamic Multi-Scale Voxel Flow Network for Video Prediction, or GIMM/GMFSS or MultiPassDedup

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RickyAstle98 wrote:

What means Lossless Scaling does not work at all in windowed mode?

Im Windows 10 and LS works perfectly well, even with RIFE combination!

I use RIFE x3 + LSFG (refresh rate) target, looks awesome!

The SVP doesnt support multiple instances, atleast RIFE workloads cannot be divided!

I tried the newest 3.something version lossless scaling - https://store.steampowered.com/app/9930 … s_Scaling/

When I enabled the scaling, it centered the video on screen and surrounded it with black borders. It did not stay windowed. I couldn't figure out what to do with it.

Good to know that multiple RIFE enhanced videos cannot be played.

In regular mode inceasing multiple video's fps seems to work: https://www.svp-team.com/forum/misc.php … mp;preview

I needed to adjust the "multiple" parameter, when I changed it from 2 to 4 in the SVP options, it allowed me to play multiple videos at 120fps. For example four videos at 120FPS use ~125W with a 5090.

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Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

SeppoIisakki

> I needed to adjust the "multiple" parameter

menu -> app. settings -> add. options -> running multiple videos

> Good to know that multiple RIFE enhanced videos cannot be played.

why? works for me...


RickyAstle98

> The SVP doesnt support multiple instances, atleast RIFE workloads cannot be divided!

not true for both parts...

BTW I'm going to start banning all the LS talks here big_smile

2,337 Reply by RickyAstle98 (edited by RickyAstle98 05-04-2025 09:08:20)

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Chainik wrote:

SeppoIisakki

> I needed to adjust the "multiple" parameter

menu -> app. settings -> add. options -> running multiple videos

> Good to know that multiple RIFE enhanced videos cannot be played.

why? works for me...


RickyAstle98

> The SVP doesnt support multiple instances, atleast RIFE workloads cannot be divided!

not true for both parts...

BTW I'm going to start banning all the LS talks here big_smile

Maybe this is not true for 1st part, but my SVP4 refuses to work when RIFE workloads multipled, I dont know why!

2,338 Reply by RickyAstle98 (edited by RickyAstle98 05-04-2025 09:10:08)

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SeppoIisakki wrote:
RickyAstle98 wrote:

What means Lossless Scaling does not work at all in windowed mode?

Im Windows 10 and LS works perfectly well, even with RIFE combination!

I use RIFE x3 + LSFG (refresh rate) target, looks awesome!

The SVP doesnt support multiple instances, atleast RIFE workloads cannot be divided!

I tried the newest 3.something version lossless scaling - https://store.steampowered.com/app/9930 … s_Scaling/

When I enabled the scaling, it centered the video on screen and surrounded it with black borders. It did not stay windowed. I couldn't figure out what to do with it.

Good to know that multiple RIFE enhanced videos cannot be played.

In regular mode inceasing multiple video's fps seems to work: https://www.svp-team.com/forum/misc.php … mp;preview

I needed to adjust the "multiple" parameter, when I changed it from 2 to 4 in the SVP options, it allowed me to play multiple videos at 120fps. For example four videos at 120FPS use ~125W with a 5090.

Last LS talking Chainik, thanks!

The LS supposed to have Scaling type, and yes, you supposed to make windowed fullscreen video, better quality, doesnt work when you forced exclusive fullscreen mode through player!
Scaling type: Any (except OFF)
Scaling mode: Auto/Fullscreen

2,339 Reply by RickyAstle98 (edited by RickyAstle98 05-04-2025 09:16:45)

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Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

Sach wrote:

Hello everyone,

I'm using Rife v25v2 TensorRt with scene change SVP Motion vector

I'm looking at the advanced settings of the software, all settings, it's been 3 months that I test several settings in a manual way directly, the options in the basic UI are really not sufficient, with the image comparison method I find that the image jerks despite having tested 50 different values.



So I wanted to know about the SVP motion vector method  in the all parameters tab, what are the best values to set to avoid artifacts between scene changes?



It's a pity there's no Discord because chatting on the forum is really hell for this kind of question.



and please don't tell me that the values in the drop-down menu directly in the profile are enough, because by exploring several softwares that don't work in real time there are so many options that you can modify with Rife and also use more efficient scene change methods, or use CVPR2023- A Dynamic Multi-Scale Voxel Flow Network for Video Prediction, or GIMM/GMFSS or MultiPassDedup

The developers of SVP4 arent responsible for the RIFE conf/params at all, you supposed to edit the contents of onnx models by yourself! Video jerks? Your issues, RIFE issues, not SVP issues!

Multiple Pass Deduplication is best scenario for any type of content, but requires large buffer to work realtime, also this is helps with old movies, when slowmotion scenes has duplicated frames or something else!

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Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

Hi  someone are updated to  Vapoursynth R71 https://github.com/vapoursynth/vapoursynth/releases, before Chainik roll the update of R70 i got it work by myself , but i cant remember how I did it.

I will like to test  the R71, so if anyone have some advice to make it work i really appreciated the reply.

If Chainik could rollout an update via maintenance application even better